Subject	People to know what's going on, just like Stillen years ago
Posted by	SeedyROM on March 06, 2008 at 9:38 PM
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In Reply To	I have to ask posted by LJZTT on March 06, 2008 at 09:24 PM
Message	Believe me, I realize that in the end Z1 will keep making money hand over fist unless they really fuck up and piss off a government agency or some wacko with a gun collection. Neither of which are likely to happen. Some of the old timers might remember what happened with a little company we call Stillen. Did Stillen go away, stop making parts and stop being hounded by the Better Business Bureau for shoddy service? Did their lawsuits go away? No. But people did finally see them for what they were. For quite a while people took their wallets elsewhere or at the very least, didn't buy direct. Some even made Stillensucks.com websites and went way beyond anything I've ever done. I know some of you newer guys don't realize it, but Z1 is not the first and wont be the last to go down this road. Boycott AMS Products - Killing Z32 product innovations, one quickly copied Chinese part at a time. www.SoCalZCrew.com - Come find out how we do it in the West!
Follow Ups	The blackmailing of TT.net? - SeedyROM 21:09:46 03/06/08 I have to ask - LJZTT 21:24:12 03/06/08 People to know what's going on, just like Stillen years ago - SeedyROM 21:38:20 03/06/08 If that's the case - ENVYMYZ 21:52:46 03/06/08 In a few days you'll get some details - SeedyROM 22:25:27 03/06/08 Good to know Ryan. - ENVYMYZ 22:37:20 03/06/08 Let me also be the first to apologize - SeedyROM 22:46:57 03/06/08 So it's wrong to try to buy direct now! lol - Russell@Z1 00:26:30 03/07/08 Ah Ad Hominem attacks... - Keaner 00:44:18 03/07/08 I don't see any name calling in Russell's post. (n/m) - AZHeat 01:01:14 03/07/08 A Gift: - Keaner 01:13:01 03/07/08 You also said name calling, I don't see that in his - AZHeat 08:38:58 03/07/08 Can you handle the truth coming out Russell? Here it comes.. - SeedyROM 01:37:20 03/07/08 I don't know the details but I have seen some of - The Devils Z 07:40:47 03/07/08 I never said any of that. Nice detective work. - Russell@Z1 09:39:26 03/07/08 But you don't have the facts, or do you? All I'm saying is - LJZTT 21:59:32 03/06/08 Did the 4+ years of bookmarks not convince you of anything? - SeedyROM 22:19:22 03/06/08 Look I am not debating you, if you really want my answer - LJZTT 22:29:06 03/06/08 I thank you for the honest response - SeedyROM 22:34:28 03/06/08 I'm with you, I just don't understand why you feel it is - LJZTT 22:57:48 03/06/08 I'll let you in on a little (big?) secret - SeedyROM 00:09:51 03/07/08 I understand what you say about Stillen ..but people - The Devils Z 01:42:00 03/07/08 Great post Seedy! (n/m) - Inzane 13:03:55 03/07/08 I'm pretty quiet regarding this whole issue - TT XTZ 14:07:01 03/07/08 I pretty much share LJ's opinion - BlackholeZ 00:29:31 03/07/08 I'm sick to my stomach at the moment. - ni[X]it 21:57:12 03/06/08 Text can be taken any number of ways, it's no coincidence - LJZTT 22:07:26 03/06/08 You asked what you "guys" want. - ni[X]it 22:40:39 03/06/08 See what I mean?? That wasn't what I meant! lol - LJZTT 23:09:35 03/06/08 now u know how I've been feeling w\ our products (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 23:09:11 03/06/08 As always, you put it oh so well into words... - Waco300zx(DFW) 01:52:32 03/07/08 I know it;s been a sore point, and probably morally it's - Audioquest 21:30:45 03/06/08 Exactly. Vote with your wallet. - SeedyROM 21:39:03 03/06/08 Ryan, everyone gets it, stop patronizing the members here - ZEngineer 21:46:01 03/06/08 Re: Ryan, everyone gets it, stop patronizing the members her - moxie (SF) 21:53:57 03/06/08 worthless without pics (n/m) - ZEngineer 21:56:45 03/06/08 2nd. (n/m) - SeedyROM 21:57:56 03/06/08 The foremost statement of the night. Action is words! (n/m) - Audioquest 22:39:00 03/06/08 Face it George, we told you so. - SeedyROM 21:53:58 03/06/08 Hi - spicyZ 22:07:08 03/06/08 Excellent. Two down, 2,000 more to go. (n/m) - SeedyROM 22:29:23 03/06/08 baby mama drama.. history repeats itself and again - z_samurai 21:44:52 03/06/08 Is this all necessary? Has your point not already been made? - dpjax 23:08:16 03/06/08 My goal is... - SeedyROM 00:16:43 03/07/08 Why not introduce a vendor rating system? - Jackie 01:52:11 03/07/08 They had some good reasons against it if memory serves - SeedyROM 01:59:40 03/07/08 Just a question - BradleyTT(OK) 09:45:32 03/07/08 My head hurts (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 23:28:08 03/06/08 please tell me SOMEONE is cutting you a check (n/m) - ZiNnYc 23:40:05 03/06/08 Are you related to Ralph Nader or did you work for him? (n/m) - AZHeat 00:32:08 03/07/08 I call him Grandpa. - SeedyROM 00:45:59 03/07/08 my lord... - tyler@boostpro.net 01:54:45 03/07/08 You just can't ignore it? - SeedyROM 02:04:16 03/07/08 I believe he just gave you his thoughts. (n/m) - scottyfender 08:29:58 03/07/08 I gotta stop going to work. This is far more entertaining. ( (n/m) - Audicon 03:52:39 03/07/08 not that i buy a lot from Z1 but i am disapointed :( (n/m) - ztunerz 09:24:00 03/07/08
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