Subject	Sure. Here are a BUNCH more recent ones for you>>>
Posted by	SeedyROM on February 18, 2008 at 7:45 PM
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In Reply To	Got anything newer than May 2005? (n/m) posted by dpjax on February 18, 2008 at 07:03 PM
Message	Thanks dpjax, I hadn't realized the first list was so outdated but it shows a great history of promises broken and shoddy service all the way around. These aren't in any particular order but cover June '06 - '08. Oddly enough, you wont even find five threads like these for ANY of the reputable vendors/shops here. As usual, we're "making up all the negativity", right? "Ive had it up to here with Z1...gotta vent" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=2064249 ] "Z1 - terrible service" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1860498 ] "Well, I'm never going to Z1 again..." [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1859144 ] "Warning: Z1 Motorsports..." [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1858689 ] "Z1 Did it again" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1878438 ] red TT calling out Russell's shoddy service and excuses. Followup to above. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1878731 ] Z1 forgets to change parts, puts other stuff in wrong then insults customer with lame excuse. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1781273 ] "I have another post of bad Z1 packaging" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1776601 ] Yet another Z1 Engine horror story (with much more below it) [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1691997 ] "Watch out for Z1!" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1667407 ] More Z1 customer service screwups. VOLK GTC Group Buy [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1574313 ] "Are the Z1 built engines good?". Overwhelming response says NO. History of shoddy builds before, blames exmployees in other bookmarks. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1876015 ] Z1 Turbo Clocking issues. Let the customers figure it out. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1845872 ] UnrulyZ about changing his mind about Z1 over time. Russell says to "Search" and we do. Find lots more ugliness. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1630941 ] "Surprise, surprise, Z1 fails again =/ Sorry to hear" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1615817 ] "Z1 Steals Ash's old domain name from underneath him". Great guys to give your money to. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1590599 ] Outrageous shipping on multi-thousand dollar turbos. Not the first time. [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1996692 ] "I do not recommend Z1 Motorsports" [ http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1561167 ] Boycott AMS Products - Killing Z32 product innovations, one quickly copied Chinese part at a time. www.SoCalZCrew.com - Come find out how we do it in the West!
Follow Ups	What is the current consensus on machined plenums and - Jkova300z 16:24:30 02/18/08 I'm not aware of any big problems. - Russell@Z1 16:36:12 02/18/08 I'm sure AMS will be along shortly with a Chinese ripoff - Guapo 17:03:56 02/18/08 2nd. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:07:02 02/18/08 that sounds familiar - aliaZ 17:21:35 02/18/08 I had your machined lower plenum for a few years, - Kick'n 19:27:54 02/18/08 Just avoid Z1 entirely - SeedyROM 17:52:30 02/18/08 Game...set...match....whew! Bookmark much???? (n/m) - RAGTPZ 18:07:00 02/18/08 That's about 1/5th what I have saved - SeedyROM 18:10:56 02/18/08 That would definitely take some big cohones. (n/m) - RAGTPZ 18:17:20 02/18/08 the link to the 350 thread is bad in the original post - spyhunterTT(nj) 18:12:04 02/18/08 Re: the link to the 350 thread is bad in the original post - SeedyROM 18:19:11 02/18/08 Oh my, has me re-thinking my upcoming plans for the swap. - Gold Z 18:16:33 02/18/08 if you value your Z, don't take it to Z1. (n/m) - Spee 19:55:42 02/18/08 I wouldn't beleive everything you read on the internet. - Russell@Z1 19:59:17 02/18/08 All links above are new. Your canned responses are old - SeedyROM 20:11:14 02/18/08 wow - 300ZMang 20:21:58 02/18/08 russell, we are waiting for a rebuttal? (n/m) - Spongerider :) 22:36:45 02/18/08 deja vu (n/m) - Spee 20:13:05 02/18/08 I'll be honest, I've done a ton of business with you - TriniTT 20:47:11 02/18/08 I agree - ZXRider(SoCal) 00:15:37 02/19/08 Got anything newer than May 2005? (n/m) - dpjax 19:03:58 02/18/08 Sure. Here are a BUNCH more recent ones for you>>> - SeedyROM 19:45:37 02/18/08 The folks at Z1 remind me of the movie Deliverance. - AZHeat 19:53:28 02/18/08 No reason to name call. Let the facts/posts speak. - SeedyROM 19:57:12 02/18/08 Well have you ever done business with them and called - AZHeat 20:10:44 02/18/08 Yes, I have - SeedyROM 20:12:49 02/18/08 Bookmarked.... (n/m) - Zski 20:27:19 02/18/08 Wow !! talk about bookmarks!! (n/m) - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 03:48:34 02/19/08 I've done two sets... - spyhunterTT(nj) 18:08:02 02/18/08 >>> - ztunerz 18:14:15 02/18/08 How much data do you have to back up this claim? (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 18:57:49 02/18/08 how much do you want ? - ztunerz 19:45:40 02/18/08 Umm...yea I have seen first hand on my buddy's Z. - nonstopna 19:34:06 02/18/08 make sure the machined areas on the lower plenum are clean - Spee 19:37:47 02/18/08 Like so... - Barry'z (NJ) 10:25:42 02/19/08 Morning wood is dangerous. Ash is easily impressed! - Scotts94z32 10:45:12 02/19/08 they split, they didn't disintegrate. (n/m) - Spee 23:47:22 02/19/08 I've had no issues in the 4.5 years I've had my machined - Guapo 20:30:43 02/18/08 tx bias much? - gt300zxtt 20:43:21 02/18/08 Not really, I'm from CA. I just like quality vendors. (n/m) - Guapo 20:46:25 02/18/08 are you saying Coz isn't,or am I reading too much into this? (n/m) - ZEngineer 22:16:12 02/18/08 You're reading way too much into it. (n/m) - Guapo 22:19:11 02/18/08 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 22:21:33 02/18/08 yes, your estrogen levels are too high again. (n/m) - Spee 23:07:35 02/18/08 lately, I just need to be held. (n/m) - ZEngineer 07:49:18 02/19/08 I'm glad I saved that before it got nuked ;~) (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 10:27:03 02/19/08
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