Subject	Dealt with this in NY similar wording. Not illegal>>
Posted by	tystar on February 07, 2008 at 1:07 PM
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In Reply To	Wrong. The burden is on you to prove it is no louder than posted by Scotts94z32 on February 07, 2008 at 09:55 AM
Message	The fact is that a modified exhaust is not illegal as long as it meets the db as described in state law. The CA law reads: "27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will AMPLIFY or INCREASE the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle" All exhaust systems reduce the noise emitted by the motor. Keep it under 95db and you are legal. There is no provision in the law stating that it has to be the same as the original. Mufflers go bad and need to be replaced a suitable replacement is acceptable as long as it meets db regulations. Section b covers nonoem equipment: (b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment." < 6000lbs, I know we are close but not there, you need 95db or less "exhaust system or parts thereof include but are not limited to, NONORIGINAL equipment" Again meet the db and you are legal. Mike
Follow Ups	Ticket for modified muffler. - 91Z_man 00:09:01 02/07/08 Re: Ticket for modified muffler. - ouikikazz 00:16:05 02/07/08 Re: Re: After searching here on tt.net that is what i read - 91Z_man 00:20:05 02/07/08 2nd...probably just profiling as well (n/m) - LoqueZX(CA) 00:26:00 02/07/08 jealousy or racism, the simpleton's answer to all - ZEngineer 09:38:08 02/07/08 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 14:37:30 02/07/08 more like open your eyes to reality - LoqueZX(CA) 22:56:08 02/07/08 I'd like to see you using that brilliant defense strategy - ZEngineer 09:36:19 02/07/08 That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection. - Scotts94z32 10:02:25 02/07/08 You got a smile out of me for that quote :-) - Hawkin"Z" 12:46:21 02/07/08 Ahh yes Happy Gilmore - wattz 16:51:39 02/07/08 I think you mean Billy Madison. - John B. (NJ) 17:57:53 02/07/08 Wrong. The burden is on you to prove it is no louder than - Scotts94z32 09:55:46 02/07/08 Your quotation didn't say anything about being stock level. - TriniTT 11:46:47 02/07/08 Well, the burden is actually on the officer. . . - Rule12b 12:59:45 02/07/08 True, but right now the burden is on him because he has - Scotts94z32 13:17:04 02/07/08 Well, if he pleads not guilty. . . - Rule12b 14:25:24 02/07/08 2nd. The officer is going to have to prove it was too big or - doug8867 16:25:54 02/07/08 Dealt with this in NY similar wording. Not illegal>> - tystar 13:07:04 02/07/08 Take it to a referee station for a measurement. - Got Z? 00:23:31 02/07/08 Thanks again for the help Vinson, - zQuikonE 01:35:30 02/07/08 Wow great post! (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 02:46:39 02/07/08 Update your profile's email addy! (n/m) - Scotts94z32 09:56:23 02/07/08 Haha... I dont know it yet. Will use gmail for now... (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 15:51:17 02/07/08 Brilliant, simple, & informative. A+ post sir. (n/m) - Hawkin"Z" 12:49:58 02/07/08 Did you have to pay the state ref? - Scotts94z32 13:23:09 02/07/08 The test was free. - zQuikonE 13:47:24 02/07/08 "hello Mr. Examiner, here's a can of worms, would you please - ZEngineer 14:01:05 02/07/08 True that. . . - Rule12b 14:31:45 02/07/08 I had the same problem with my rear Jspecs. I said, "look, - Scotts94z32 14:51:29 02/07/08 Being polite and keeping your cool - TTFairladyZ 15:12:32 02/07/08 Hi Eric. Going to MSA this year? (n/m) - Got Z? 22:31:09 02/07/08 Re: Did you have to pay any fines since the muffler is - 91Z_man 23:26:49 02/07/08 Contact Greddy. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 01:23:57 02/07/08 For one thing im sure that the cop just needed something to - 93300zxttchitown 02:34:29 02/07/08 Samething happened to me... - Zdriver24 (NJ) 05:59:32 02/07/08 I don't know how it's done in your area - ZEngineer 08:15:55 02/07/08 coincidentally,this is why I replaced my canteloupe-launcher - ZEngineer 08:20:44 02/07/08 Yea I doubt anyone would get stopped with SZ or B&B tips (n/m) - Aqualung 09:04:57 02/07/08 Not true, the SZ and B&B still stand out - tya 09:25:22 02/07/08 true, but mine are encased in a diaper - ZEngineer 09:42:43 02/07/08 2nd. - RedSER13 11:04:21 02/07/08 What you do in that event... - Jehannum 07:05:35 02/08/08 pullover stats >>> - stockplayerz(nyc) 09:02:03 02/07/08 Mine (for noise/modification) - Scotts94z32 10:04:19 02/07/08 I have the JWT Genie, I never get harassed by cops :) (n/m) - twinturbopoweredz 19:28:22 02/07/08 Thats BS. Bet you never got a ticket. - ZiNnYc 00:49:39 02/08/08 he gave you a ticket for using a non-factory muffler - RedSER13 09:13:55 02/07/08 VC 27151(a) states... - zQuikonE 11:14:41 02/07/08 How does any common muffler amplify the noise made by - boileralum 15:34:06 02/07/08 Oh good point. The wording of the law is flawed. (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 16:18:40 02/07/08 2nd. boileralum should be in law school. :) (n/m) - Dustin 19:19:15 02/07/08 I've thought about it, but my undergrad grades weren't that - boileralum 04:20:23 02/08/08 search some of my old posts. I have beaten it before. (n/m) - spotz 09:18:49 02/07/08 Re: Ticket for modified muffler. - uz32tt 10:16:09 02/07/08 Re: Ticket for modified muffler. - DualZ (SF) 12:26:14 02/07/08 There is no carb e.o. for catbacks. Carb e.o. is for intakes - zQuikonE 12:46:14 02/07/08 Isn’t socialism great? - njz 19:16:50 02/07/08 They can pull you over on private property for a - Dustin 19:20:27 02/07/08
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