Subject	Since the engine is rife with performance problems,
Posted by	240Z FeO2 on January 23, 2008 at 1:37 PM
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In Reply To	So what do you do when someone owes you? posted by BOOZTD 3 on January 23, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Message	your customer may counter your labor cost with claims of your incompetance and that he owes you less, or nothing at all, because of it. Even if you think its clear that all the engine problems are related to parts he supplied, don't be so sure. What is obvious to one person is often not so clear to someone else, judges included. To cloud the matter further, are you sure that as a mechanic and businessman you are operating a business within the letter of the law? Maybe the owner will rollover and let you take legal possession of his car, but I would pay attention to my own vulnerabilities. IMO you should consider all the aspects and possible outcomes of this problem before proceeding, and consult an attorney. Chance favors the informed
Follow Ups	So what do you do when someone owes you? - BOOZTD 3 11:23:05 01/23/08 Re: So what do you do when someone owes you? - biabia 11:35:24 01/23/08 Unfortunately.... - BOOZTD 3 11:38:08 01/23/08 Get the lien process moving - that should stir him into - Bernie (NoVA) 11:38:07 01/23/08 He is just going to let the car sit - NytWolf 11:54:57 01/23/08 Thats whats so confusing....... - BOOZTD 3 13:23:45 01/23/08 In either case, you still need to stay within the laws - NytWolf 13:58:58 01/23/08 is he in the same state? - Alan(NJ) 11:59:09 01/23/08 Yes, both in IL (n/m) - BOOZTD 3 13:29:40 01/23/08 Mechanics lien. (n/m) - MistressZ 11:59:58 01/23/08 you have the car, so no need to lien, consult a lawyer - CRAZZEPETE. 12:19:37 01/23/08 Pretty certain you need to place a lien against property >> - Gordo 93TT Daytona 12:31:38 01/23/08 I'm thinking if he's not a certified Mechanic, a lien won't - CRAZZEPETE. 13:01:49 01/23/08 I am registered as a business however - BOOZTD 3 13:25:24 01/23/08 Claimant does not need to be "certified" or incorporated as - Gordo 93TT Daytona 16:15:17 01/23/08 if he's a young kid, I'd tell his momma - ZEngineer 12:33:15 01/23/08 I believe he lives by himself, and is around the same age... - BOOZTD 3 13:29:00 01/23/08 Retain counsel. You need expertise here. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 12:39:25 01/23/08 I agree with everyone below.... - CameronSF 12:49:13 01/23/08 Here is a sample lien form...(link inside)>> - Gordo 93TT Daytona 12:51:48 01/23/08 Re: So what do you do when someone owes you? - z-u-later 13:25:17 01/23/08 He didnt know what shape they were in.... - BOOZTD 3 13:27:37 01/23/08 so after sitting the seals can go bad? (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 13:32:58 01/23/08 The turbos are bad and are smoking.... - BOOZTD 3 13:45:50 01/23/08 Since the engine is rife with performance problems, - 240Z FeO2 13:37:06 01/23/08 This is why I am asking here... - BOOZTD 3 13:44:05 01/23/08 either way, you entered into a contract, he knowingly - CRAZZEPETE. 13:48:37 01/23/08 That statement pushes this clearly into the realm - pcproa 13:57:08 01/23/08 If that truly is the case then thats nice to know... - BOOZTD 3 14:08:08 01/23/08 witnesses always help (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 14:25:23 01/23/08 Their testimony will only be pertinent to what they witnessd - doug8867 15:20:23 01/23/08 Yep, witnesses are not relevant in this case - NytWolf 17:46:10 01/23/08 See my "witness" response below, but following up on that - doug8867 15:22:46 01/23/08 The issue is NOT whether the work was performed correctly - Gordo 93TT Daytona 16:22:47 01/23/08 Gordo...get back out of retirement and roadtrip to IL :-) (n/m) - Gizmo 16:28:07 01/23/08 I am not a lawyer, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last nite - Gordo 93TT Daytona 16:32:32 01/23/08 Classic. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 17:21:33 01/23/08 Haha, you're the man Gordo. (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 17:44:29 01/23/08 someone pulled that shit with me - Crim 18:30:46 01/23/08 just curious, how do turbos go bad just from sitting? (n/m) - naZeer (Dallas) 19:28:08 01/23/08 14.7 pounds of static air pressure on turbo seals is murder. (n/m) - ni[X]it 19:53:43 01/23/08 well... - naZeer (Dallas) 22:36:41 01/23/08 *sarcasm* (n/m) - doug8867 16:19:04 01/24/08 So who's the deadbeat non-paying owner here? Let's hear his - 94Z32XTT 02:07:10 01/24/08 if he complains about the work, you will be entitled to the - mogaffar 16:40:11 01/24/08 here is the case in regard to that... - mogaffar 16:45:24 01/24/08 btw hope this helps and you get everything taken care of! (n/m) - mogaffar 16:50:22 01/24/08
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