| Thus you are wrong. BMW's SMG-I takes over 200ms to shift. Audi's DSG takes over 200ms. Enzo Ferrari takes 150ms. Excellent examples of shifting under .3 seconds - the minimum given your simulation model for the Leader gears to be faster. According to Wikipedia, an average manual car driver takes 500ms to shift and that is where the *default* value used in the calculator came from. Wikipedia is hardly the best resource for reliable statistical information. The irony of this claim is manifold given your upcoming hubris... It is not arbitrarily chosen. Wikipedia. Really? I am also inclined to not have a good impression of you if you think drag videos are a conclusive way of telling somebody's shift time. I'm sorry you have a poor impression of me, however I did not claim that was conclusive evidence of shift times. It was merely an example of why your 1/2 second estimate is completely off base. Our knowledge bases and intellect levels are so different (excuse if I'm sounding condescending) that we can't communicate productively. "Not to be condescending, but I'm much smarter than you, thus your point can't actually be valid." Nothing condescending about that! Please, tell me more about my knowledge base and level of intellect. Ad hominem attacks like this only serve to lend credence to my argument. #2. The calculator does not account for tire slippage. This factor causes it to be more favorable to the car with leader gears. In reality, a Z with over 500hp is likely to have traction issues and the car with Leader gears will be more severely affected. Given a proper suspension setup and correct tire choice, traction is not an issue. So what even if the gearing change causes the car to be *marginally* faster, if at all? It's not worth the parts+labor cost, the downtime, the whining sound, the degraded fuel economy for many of us. And now you change your tune. Before it was "slower" and now it's "marginally faster." Pick one, stick with it. That will serve to enhance my opinion of your respective knowledge base. Now, some drivers may find the Leader gears to me more enjoyable which is entirely subjective. Not me, because I hate when my friend with his turbo-charged E36 can hardly use his first gear, and when I run out of second gear in my Z at 70mph. His E36 has leader gears? What does your annoyance with your second gear not carrying you into 300 mph have to do with the fact that your argument hinges on a fallacious, arbitrary choice of a 500 ms shift time? Enough of digression; I've alredy argued on this topic enough here. "Already." Maybe that earlier comment had unintended merit after all...
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