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a decent loss. granted, they were clogged before, and i have nothing from the h-pipe back (bolt rusted on, so i cant finish the swap yet) but just tooling around the neighborhood, it is deffently slower accelerating from a dead stop with the cats gone. and yes, i drove it like that with the cats in place too. and the ecu had time to learn each way. might not be a good way to compare, but it was noticed
and look at some of seedys posts, he punched his for abit, and said it made aa huge difference.
and one of the nyc na boys got the hiper cat back and noticed a huge differnce, and thats with the cats in place and a free flowing exhuast! im pretty much sold on having atleast high flow cats in a na without nos. but nos is a different story with cats...
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