Subject	And then its ridiculously cheap comparatively speaking
Posted by	Kaz (Dallas) on September 05, 2006 at 2:25 PM
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In Reply To	Well, here is the short reasoning... posted by Kaz (Dallas) on September 05, 2006 at 02:12 PM
Message	on the TT... TT Cost versus HP gains (info is all from CZP.us) Underdrive Pulley - $190 for 22-24HP (UR) = $8.26/hp Intake - $90 for 18-20 HP (JWT) = $4.74/hp ECU - $575 for 60hp = $9.58/hp Downpipes (in place of headers) - $295 for 8-10hp (CZP) = $32.78/hp $405 for 8-10hp (Labree) = $45.00/hp $460 for 8-10hp (SpecialtyZ) = $51.11/hp Exhaust $620 for ~20hp (HKS) = $31.00/hp $849 for 20-22hp (Borla) = $40.43/hp So... For a first Z, the NA is the easiest on the wallet for Entry... but for POWER the TT is obviously the way to go... you'll spend way more on an NA just trying to get 300HP than you would on a TT getting over 400RWHP! Hope that helps. Kaz (Dallas) Now with 100% more Z! '97 A32 Maxima SE [For Sale!] '03 Z33 Fairlady Z Track '06 A34 Maxima SE (6Spd) AIM - KaZsMiR / E-mail - kazsmir@gmail.com
Follow Ups	Finally - Low Sun 12:27:33 09/05/06 Seems like you are on the right track - Mickie 12:30:07 09/05/06 save urself some $$$ and forget headers, ecu, and doolz. (n/m) - stockplayerz(nyc) 12:37:49 09/05/06 Please, elaborate. (n/m) - Low Sun 12:59:58 09/05/06 His post is pretty cut & dry. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 13:07:24 09/05/06 It's too late, he's already caught in the NA trap. - SactoTodd 13:20:06 09/05/06 so why dont we all point and laugh at the new guy who has - LJZTT 17:24:58 09/05/06 Look, you guys! Is this a civil human being I see? - Low Sun 17:42:40 09/05/06 dont sweat it man, you have your goals, should they change - LJZTT 17:51:06 09/05/06 I understand. - Low Sun 18:02:33 09/05/06 I couldn't care less if he buys an NA or TT. - SactoTodd 17:44:00 09/05/06 When did I say anything about "massive power"? - Low Sun 17:58:11 09/05/06 Define "reasonably strong". - SactoTodd 18:06:42 09/05/06 280-290. (n/m) - Low Sun 18:11:07 09/05/06 to the ground, or at the crank? - SactoTodd 18:13:25 09/05/06 At the crank. - Low Sun 18:18:06 09/05/06 not massive (n/m) - LJZTT 02:47:08 09/06/06 and so we should just assume he is a stupid kid because even - LJZTT 18:03:21 09/05/06 He was given reasonable, sound advice. You're the only - Guapo 18:11:38 09/05/06 right, "blowing smoke up his ass"....ok - LJZTT 18:27:08 09/05/06 You're the only one with the lousy attitude. (n/m) - Guapo 18:37:59 09/05/06 keep it up, you're doing all the work (n/m) - LJZTT 02:14:36 09/06/06 Re: and so we should just assume he is a stupid kid because even - SactoTodd 18:17:38 09/05/06 There's a difference between stupidity, and ignorance. - Low Sun 18:20:32 09/05/06 He means the doolz are complete overkill - jmoore010 13:20:37 09/05/06 I disagree - sfpearl300zTT 15:09:35 09/05/06 and I disagree with your disagreement (n/m) - Guapo 15:15:34 09/05/06 Be happy with what you got - FairLady's Man 16:36:57 09/05/06 I bet there are alot of people who would trade their - WAGGZ 12:42:33 09/05/06 Re: I bet there are alot of people who would trade their - Low Sun 12:47:32 09/05/06 eibachs really are more like the aftermarket alternative to - LJZTT 17:36:14 09/05/06 Intake, underdrive pulley for "power" Done. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:53:01 09/05/06 Of course it's cut and dry. - Low Sun 13:10:52 09/05/06 I'd take 99% of the information Bernie gives me as gospel - BigTDogg (MA) 13:16:31 09/05/06 the $ and labor to benefit ratio is not favorable - Guapo 13:18:02 09/05/06 $1000 + for a decent exhaust (B&B or Labree) for 10-15hp - rufflez 13:27:49 09/05/06 exhaust doesn't have to cost $1k+, and it will give - Guapo 13:38:36 09/05/06 sure, if you don't get SS and not resonated... - rufflez 13:53:39 09/05/06 the ECU isn't worth the cost period. And good luck getting - Guapo 13:59:50 09/05/06 I think you're missing my point. Both mods are not - rufflez 15:21:20 09/05/06 You're missing my point. - Guapo 15:33:23 09/05/06 we picked up 26 whp with a ecu upgrade on a NA - ztunerz 16:04:23 09/05/06 LoL. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 16:08:18 09/05/06 right (n/m) - Guapo 16:12:56 09/05/06 You have E-mail.............. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 16:20:25 09/05/06 Pm'ing (n/m) - ztunerz 16:31:34 09/05/06 Sweet! tt.net has PM! (n/m) - Scotts94z32 16:53:18 09/05/06 snide ! (n/m) - ztunerz 19:25:10 09/05/06 proof >> - ztunerz 16:30:45 09/05/06 pic is dead in your link - LJZTT 18:09:50 09/05/06 fixing - it won't matter anyway (n/m) - ztunerz 19:26:41 09/05/06 sad but true..... (n/m) - LJZTT 02:15:51 09/06/06 ??? - Dallas DamonZ 07:37:58 09/06/06 rust? - SactoTodd 14:13:05 09/05/06 On an NA maybe 20, but mine rusted out in less than 5 - BigTDogg (MA) 14:21:27 09/05/06 He's in Ca. ;) (n/m) - SactoTodd 14:37:22 09/05/06 Yeah, I'm in FL. It'd rust in less than 5 here. - rufflez 15:06:44 09/05/06 SpecialtyZ would replace that exhaust for free if it did :) (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:52:54 09/05/06 Dude, are you Greg's bitch or what? - lakerdude42 00:15:36 09/06/06 There's a lifetime warranty, that's all he said. - Kenny 00:25:42 09/06/06 I have no issues with him, just get sick of seeing the same - lakerdude42 00:31:50 09/06/06 I'm sorry words on a screen get you so uncontrollably pissy. - SeedyROM 03:43:29 09/06/06 Yeah, because I just hate you so much... - lakerdude42 12:44:03 09/06/06 Lifetime on aluminized as well? Does that cover downpipes? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 09:22:22 09/06/06 Pretty sure it does (n/m) - SeedyROM 10:03:49 09/06/06 Well, here is the short reasoning... - Kaz (Dallas) 14:12:47 09/05/06 And then its ridiculously cheap comparatively speaking - Kaz (Dallas) 14:25:24 09/05/06 bravo to this man, treading where the crabby babies dare not - LJZTT 17:30:53 09/05/06 Geat reply - interesting to see the breakdown - TT XTZ 11:02:36 09/06/06 Tough. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 14:52:26 09/05/06 lol (n/m) - Kaz (Dallas) 15:46:37 09/05/06 discussions are frowned upon here by certain members who - LJZTT 16:56:54 09/05/06 Quit whining. He got plenty of sound advice. (n/m) - Guapo 17:35:59 09/05/06 if you dont like piss poor behavior called out on, tough - LJZTT 17:43:19 09/05/06 (Total Hits: 33,721). - Spongerider :) 17:54:57 09/05/06 Let the addiction begin (n/m) - Izzy 13:30:55 09/05/06 welcome - ARA300ZX 14:42:18 09/05/06 2nd. I was content with my NA until John at Z1 took me for - S.Watson (Savannah, GA) 15:32:26 09/05/06 From a former NA owner..... - Crim 14:52:23 09/05/06 I couldn't tell a difference either, the engine is louder - WildBillZx 15:15:29 09/05/06 I did intake/exhaust on my Maxima and it never felt faster - BummedOutMonkey 18:52:31 09/05/06 I'm an NA Mod man, caught the bug quickly... - CRAZZEPETE. 15:40:38 09/05/06 Re: I'm an NA Mod man, caught the bug quickly... - SactoTodd 18:45:05 09/05/06 go dyno, i bet you wont pass 212whp (n/m) - SpecNATT (Houston) 20:29:40 09/05/06 Re: Finally - Low Sun 17:34:19 09/05/06 Okay. Good luck. (n/m) - Guapo 17:37:04 09/05/06 I'm the NA purist around here. - Zownr4life 17:59:14 09/05/06 Trust me - Low Sun 18:05:05 09/05/06 Haha, it's the truth. Like I said, I rode in Jons TT - lakerdude42 12:45:51 09/06/06 You're heading in the wrong direction from the get-go >> - my91z 18:31:15 09/05/06 2nd! - LJZTT 02:22:50 09/06/06 NA power tips and reference. - SpecNATT (Houston) 20:25:25 09/05/06 *no selectable* (n/m) - SpecNATT (Houston) 20:52:34 09/05/06 LOL (n/m) - sfpearl300zTT 11:57:21 09/06/06
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