Subject	Your implication is a valid one, that being said...
Posted by	Kenny on August 31, 2006 at 11:35 AM
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In Reply To	... posted by TT XTZ on August 31, 2006 at 11:29 AM
Message	...there are software authoring techniques that can be used to create programs that "never" fail. It's a tenet of computer science that you can never prove that a program has no possible point of failure, but you can prove that the mean time between failure is so long that for all intents and purposes, it's "bug free." These programming techniques are expensive and arduous, and you hardly ever encounter the resulting programs in desktop computing - but they are commonly used for critical systems like medical systems and satellite nagivation programs. One would hope they would use such a technique for a system they plan on using to pin crimes on people. Recursively Yours, Kenny... PETZ Member #5
Follow Ups	Good reason to keep the Z on the road for a looooonnnng time - Barry'z (NJ) 08:32:29 08/31/06 "John Spartan, you are fined 100 dollars" (n/m) - Mickie 08:36:17 08/31/06 "He doesn't know how to use the three seashells." (n/m) - Eric(NJ) 08:42:07 08/31/06 I always wondered what those were for... - Madhatter10-6 09:58:36 08/31/06 "You mean FLUID transfer??.... Ewww!" (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 10:24:53 08/31/06 I'm glad that those thinks won't work in Peru lol...Hope so. (n/m) - TheTwinZ (Peru) 08:44:48 08/31/06 . - dvlhntr 09:15:42 08/31/06 First of all, the EDR is your property, since it is part of - Atl300zxTT 09:50:52 08/31/06 You have a lot of faith in people. Must be nice. (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue 10:05:34 08/31/06 But people "stand" for photo-radar and red-light cameras? (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 10:25:47 08/31/06 Ontario Canada had the foto-raper - QuinnZ (1RedZed) 12:35:41 08/31/06 I don't have a problem with red-light cameras as long as - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 12:51:49 08/31/06 agreed (n/m) - QuinnZ (1RedZed) 12:53:48 08/31/06 or - dvlhntr 18:44:13 08/31/06 lol - Kenny 11:07:11 08/31/06 People=stupid - zboost(tx) 11:37:07 08/31/06 Apathy, not stupidity is the issue at hand. - Kenny 11:45:05 08/31/06 Don't use dem big words with me - zboost(tx) 11:48:27 08/31/06 Yar, and I agree. (n/m) - Kenny 11:50:23 08/31/06 ^^^^^^^^ Wizards' First Rule. (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 11:53:25 08/31/06 They don't have to access it, they can track your activity - Barry'z (NJ) 12:48:05 08/31/06 Currently the ones installed arent doing that (n/m) - Atl300zxTT 13:13:54 08/31/06 ...that you know of. :) Might be as simple as flipping - LordZ 13:23:29 08/31/06 Sure they are. That's one of the selling points. - Dustin 21:36:51 08/31/06 Hello this is OnStar... you're surrounded b1tch. - CaliguyPurdue 21:58:31 08/31/06 And you'd think being an OnStar operator would be no fun.... (n/m) - Dustin 22:31:56 08/31/06 i dont have an emergency button my 350z, but i know it has - Atl300zxTT 12:56:14 09/01/06 They tried to bundle this in with a proposed OBDIII (3) - CaliguyPurdue 10:09:20 08/31/06 Unfortunately you are 110% correct. - ENVYMYZ 10:28:11 08/31/06 agreed. this country is going to hell in a handbasket - longhornz32(Fort Worth) 11:04:10 08/31/06 lol, enjoy the 3rd world efficiencies. (n/m) - Kenny 11:07:43 08/31/06 all I need is a beach and a coconut with some kind of rum (n/m) - longhornz32(Fort Worth) 11:15:47 08/31/06 On second thought, save a chair for me. (n/m) - Kenny 11:21:04 08/31/06 What you got, world-fi or something...C'mon Kenny, don't - BigTDogg (MA) 12:56:14 08/31/06 I have an embedded NIC. - Kenny 15:47:06 08/31/06 Im down with the brown. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 12:11:38 08/31/06 He he ^^^ points and laughs... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:17:56 08/31/06 Brown being the coconut; You know, filled with rum? And the - ENVYMYZ 16:52:38 08/31/06 it reminds me of the movie "the 5th Element" - Cap927(Boston) 10:15:03 08/31/06 We better start working on that "Public Outrage"!! (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 10:23:42 08/31/06 couldn't 1 just dissconnect it? (n/m) - Ricky TL (Ma) 10:37:30 08/31/06 Its easy enough to add a law that makes tampering - CaliguyPurdue 10:43:05 08/31/06 Electronics fail - I'd be happy to introduce the tattle - Ash's Z 11:06:51 08/31/06 You guys are simply stunning. - Kenny 11:17:08 08/31/06 +1 (n/m) - dvlhntr 19:24:33 08/31/06 Pssh, privacy is SO 20th century... careful what you say - CaliguyPurdue 11:53:56 08/31/06 OBDII requires u to maintain extra sensors that arent - Atl300zxTT 13:04:16 08/31/06 You can't just disconnect it. They have integrated so much - MixManMash 11:05:51 08/31/06 ... - TT XTZ 11:29:45 08/31/06 Your implication is a valid one, that being said... - Kenny 11:35:16 08/31/06 If anyone had any doubts about your geekiness, - Dustin 11:55:21 08/31/06 lol, agreed. (n/m) - bjamin 13:05:01 08/31/06 IIRC, the lowest bidder does that right? ;) (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue 12:20:37 08/31/06 My education for the day - thanks. =) - TT XTZ 10:44:45 09/01/06 I know my detonation sensor is infallible. (n/m) - Eric(NJ) 11:46:36 08/31/06 just remember, computers can be flashed... and they need - rufflez 14:10:22 08/31/06 The article sounds a little paranoid to me. - just4kinks 11:50:40 08/31/06 I'll take vigilance before apathy. - CaliguyPurdue 12:02:41 08/31/06 Even if everything an EDR does can be accomplished in real - 240Z FeO2 12:06:37 08/31/06 In car cameras are not that far off either... - LordZ 12:37:12 08/31/06 I've been working on a system with some EE friends... - BigTDogg (MA) 13:04:02 08/31/06 pretty sweet (n/m) - Atl300zxTT 13:06:00 08/31/06 If we ever finish it :/ (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:07:45 08/31/06 it's already out... - LordZ 13:06:43 08/31/06 I want my system to be fun and security... - BigTDogg (MA) 13:08:47 08/31/06 Oh, I understand. Just saying the basics are already out - LordZ 13:18:19 08/31/06 I wrote a comment at the .gov site listed. - BigTDogg (MA) 12:36:52 08/31/06 if this actually occurred i could see the # of sports cars - Atl300zxTT 13:09:15 08/31/06 There is already some legislation out there... - PA_G35 13:32:25 08/31/06 of course lazy GA still hasnt done anything (n/m) - Atl300zxTT 13:59:18 08/31/06 Re: Good reason to keep the Z on the road for a looooonnnng time - SHIFT_for brains 14:31:20 08/31/06 more like a DRM issues. (n/m) - dvlhntr 18:49:14 08/31/06 who the hell are the 9% who voted FOR it?! (n/m) - Skrolz (MD) 15:59:22 08/31/06 Track 'em down and get contracts out on their heads. (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 11:54:16 09/01/06
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