finishes, but it's hard to tell looking at the pics on most of the sites where I've found "HMC (Chrome)" finish. They look basically the same to me in the pics. If anyone knows (maybe even a sponsor with connections), where I might find a dealer with some old stock or something, that would be great. Three of the four I have are in nearly new condition and I would really like to find another 8.5 to match up. I love the looks of M Sports on the Z (even if they are old news) and would hate to have to abandon my plan to put them on. What the **** does HMC mean anyway?