Subject	"Mental masterbation?"....No!
Posted by	I-xclr8 on July 26, 2006 at 9:01 PM
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In Reply To	There are a number of differences between the three posted by Ash's Z on July 26, 2006 at 01:07 PM
Message	You gotta appreciate Ash for at least asking the questions....and you don't need to lecture him on the "differences" between the 3 setups, certainly more than I/C hardware. If that's not enough, Dee's new ride will be getting my new exhaust manifolds, considerably larger than Seb's...and my new, straighter 3" downpipe/ testpipe combo. Until someone tests the performance of one variable at a time, you'll never really have the full picture....and not even Ash has that much time and energy. Sorry to beat my chest, but everyone else was getting in w/ their own shameless plug. Jon Abeler, Abeler Automotive Engineering (AAE)
Follow Ups	Seb's car vs Dee's car (CAN OF WORMS!) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 09:21:41 07/26/06 Cliffs: "Dee has 3" parts." - Kenny 09:26:26 07/26/06 Thanks for taking the time to give us some feedback, Greg. - Ash's Z 09:42:14 07/26/06 No Worries.....It might be helpful if you could post a chart - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 10:39:37 07/26/06 Good suggestion! Here it is: - Ash's Z 11:16:40 07/26/06 Thanks for posting that........... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 15:02:18 07/26/06 Looking forward to seeing the results of your creations. - Ash's Z 17:22:50 07/26/06 agreed - aliaZ 10:07:02 07/26/06 I couldn't agree with you more. - Ash's Z 10:17:24 07/26/06 But it's not about "7 PSI" - bankruptedz 10:37:05 07/26/06 Re: But it's not about "7 PSI" - Ash's Z 10:50:33 07/26/06 No but you are/will be trying to sell stuff - bankruptedz 13:07:49 07/26/06 I do run a business that specializes in Z32 aftermarket - Ash's Z 13:41:27 07/26/06 You must have missed the point - bankruptedz 13:52:31 07/26/06 So you dont like how I have put it out there. - Ash's Z 14:07:47 07/26/06 I guess were both confused - bankruptedz 14:05:25 07/26/06 This may help >> - Ash's Z 14:10:07 07/26/06 no no...Ash i get it my friend - bankruptedz 14:11:50 07/26/06 also... - aliaZ 10:41:31 07/26/06 Yes, it likely is making a difference. - Ash's Z 10:56:57 07/26/06 yep (n/m) - aliaZ 11:16:58 07/26/06 pics of modified stillen outlets - aliaZ 10:33:24 07/26/06 Good to know - I posted a dyno comparison of Dee's setup - Ash's Z 11:21:54 07/26/06 An interesting test you can run NOW off the dyno - bankruptedz 10:15:08 07/26/06 We did that on Dee's car. The Stillen ICs had a ~3psi - Ash's Z 10:20:52 07/26/06 ah...right - bankruptedz 10:30:53 07/26/06 How do you suggest he determine the VE of the engine - Ash's Z 10:58:15 07/26/06 what is VE short for? (n/m) - moxie 11:38:04 07/26/06 volumetric efficientcy - ZJeweler 11:50:04 07/26/06 heh, efficiency... - Scotts94z32 12:43:40 07/26/06 Thanks, I think I'll do that...... (n/m) - ZJeweler 16:53:26 07/26/06 Me don't know - bankruptedz 12:41:05 07/26/06 I'm confused by why you would say that it is all about - Ash's Z 14:31:32 07/26/06 Re: I'm confused by why you would say that it is all about - bankruptedz 12:08:12 07/27/06 Agreed. :) - Ash's Z 13:17:48 07/27/06 Question - if you read this - bankruptedz 20:58:34 07/27/06 I am using the OEM 4-bolt .63 A/R turbine housings - Ash's Z 10:15:24 07/28/06 I say take both to the dragstrip and show me the MPH. :-) (n/m) - Arnel 12:06:39 07/26/06 There you go :) (n/m) - Piranha(Omaha) 12:22:56 07/26/06 That's what i say.... (n/m) - bankruptedz 12:37:23 07/26/06 As if that would minimize variables... ;-) - Ash's Z 13:10:57 07/26/06 Thats what iam talking about. but unlikely (n/m) - MikeVar82 15:52:08 07/26/06 Let's also not forget that I am running solid - Seb (specialty-Z) 12:15:58 07/26/06 Why the switch then? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:29:28 07/26/06 Well, having HD Valve Springs detoriorates - Seb (specialty-Z) 12:47:40 07/26/06 That would explain why my gears leaked worse - BigTDogg (MA) 12:52:49 07/26/06 He's talking about the valve springs, not the VTC springs. (n/m) - Dave N 13:02:43 07/26/06 So the valve springs affect the VTC intake cams? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:13:30 07/26/06 Physics 101. More force is required to act against the - Dave N 13:36:18 07/26/06 Makes sense, but I guess I should have phrased my - BigTDogg (MA) 13:49:31 07/26/06 It should be noted that I didn't point and laugh in my reply - Dave N 14:25:50 07/26/06 I know when you're pointing and laughing, no worries :) (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:07:44 07/26/06 No, the upgrade for the VTC springs is supposed to HELP, - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 15:02:51 07/26/06 There are a number of differences between the three - Ash's Z 13:07:53 07/26/06 sig check - aliaZ 13:52:36 07/26/06 seriously (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 15:06:15 07/26/06 sirusly (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:08:06 07/26/06 I'm lost. - Ash's Z 17:17:24 07/26/06 I took it to mean it gets frustrating talking to a wall - Joe(NoVA) 10:36:51 07/27/06 well - aliaZ 12:15:33 07/27/06 Consider that we both understand what is going on here, - Ash's Z 12:50:56 07/27/06 "Mental masterbation?"....No! - I-xclr8 21:01:20 07/26/06 And even if we did it one variable at a time, you would have - Ash's Z 11:09:54 07/27/06
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