Subject	FWIW, consider this "measure" of a car's handling/suspension
Posted by	LJZTT on June 29, 2006 at 12:10 PM
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In Reply To	Comparing bone stock to bone stock correct? posted by BigTDogg (MA) on June 29, 2006 at 11:00 AM
Message	the 100ft slalom mph stat..... Just for some perspective.... From MotorTrend online Ferrari Challenge Stradale (basically a factory race prepped Modena)....72.7mph Boxster S.....70.9 Lotus Elise....73.2 Corvette C6 w/ Z51 suspension....66.2 Honda S2000....70.3 Mazda RX-8....68.1 350Z (track).....68.0 Z32NA...........66.0 Z32TT (MotorTrend Nov. 1989)....71.9 mph! it was described as a "slalom animal" due in large part to the HICAS system, that many feel they are better off without. That in no way declares the Z32 suspension (new) as lord of all, but it certainly says a great deal about the car's design and ability to handle fast transitions at the limit, which to me, combined with flatout grip (tire dependent) is what handling is all about
Follow Ups	how has the z32 suspension technology aged? >> - stockplayerz (nyc) 10:00:03 06/29/06 i dont agree with this statement completely but... - Atl300zxTT (Less Lazy) 10:02:03 06/29/06 I wouldn't agree with that. But I'm not Stillen. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:12:13 06/29/06 It's not the money you throw at it - bankruptedz 10:22:07 06/29/06 After meeting Mr Millen, or Steve as he insists I call him - BigTDogg (MA) 10:33:18 06/29/06 Millen's a pee pee head anyway! (n/m) - bankruptedz 15:58:22 06/29/06 "rims" - Kenny 10:40:41 06/29/06 I believe that. - ENVYMYZ 10:14:27 06/29/06 How did your tires compare? (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 10:15:55 06/29/06 Exact same tires. BF Goodrich KDW-II's. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 12:05:14 06/29/06 get stillen sways and carbing bars. and tires have to be = (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:16:37 06/29/06 The jury is still out on the shock tie bars, imho. (n/m) - Kenny 10:34:07 06/29/06 Uh, strut tower braces, w/e. (n/m) - Kenny 10:40:04 06/29/06 I'll have a better idea in a couple of weeks... - BigTDogg (MA) 10:40:17 06/29/06 They also exacerbate understeer. - Kenny 10:44:50 06/29/06 Er, the front one =). (n/m) - Kenny 10:55:00 06/29/06 Wider front tires will help that. I dunno, I'm gonna buy - BigTDogg (MA) 10:57:21 06/29/06 I'm sure it's relatively subtle. - Kenny 11:00:06 06/29/06 "TT Rear Sway-Bar" (n/m) - Guapo 10:29:44 06/29/06 Upgrade sways, FTW... - BradZ (FL) 11:21:06 06/29/06 lol - ENVYMYZ 12:11:22 06/29/06 I own both cars, and agree to a point - LSUturbotiger 10:39:11 06/29/06 Comparing bone stock to bone stock correct? - BigTDogg (MA) 11:00:41 06/29/06 Technoprancer made a pretty salient point. - Kenny 11:09:41 06/29/06 FWIW, consider this "measure" of a car's handling/suspension - LJZTT 12:10:26 06/29/06 Nice! (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue 12:39:27 06/29/06 While impressive, that's just one facet. - Kenny 13:04:20 06/29/06 awesome to know - Waco300zx 13:42:29 06/29/06 no doubt, 68 mph is no slouch, though it is a tad slower - LJZTT 17:06:28 06/29/06 I was very impressed with how *tight* a stock 350Z feels. (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 11:30:51 06/29/06 Drive any very low mileage car, and they'll feel a good bit - Barry'z (NJ) 11:46:40 06/29/06 2nd, my 59K mile TT feels incredible vs. my 120K mile 95TT - zboost(tx) 11:48:51 06/29/06 Depends on how much refreshing you do ;-) (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 19:39:03 06/29/06 I've got both as well and both with modified suspension - sfarrah 12:02:08 06/29/06 HICAS disabled? on the infield? curious about the details (n/m) - LJZTT 12:15:11 06/29/06 HICAS disabled-yes. it was the 2.9 mile config at TWS - sfarrah 12:31:54 06/29/06 But how do you know that the 300 suspension is in - RSR 14:55:00 06/29/06 2nd that - BigTDogg (MA) 15:00:54 06/29/06 Well I was running 3 deg camber front and 2 rear - sfarrah 15:16:37 06/29/06 He's a salesman. What do you expect him to say? - just4kinks 11:21:23 06/29/06 ding...ding...ding... we have a wiiiiinnnnnnnAr.... (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 11:32:01 06/29/06 The Z's suspension is really very good - Technomancer 10:59:20 06/29/06 very interesting, thanks for your input. (n/m) - stockplayerz (nyc) 11:27:30 06/29/06 so long as it keeps the contact patches on the pavement - LJZTT 11:53:19 06/29/06 An aluminum sub frame and control arms would sure be nice - Turbodog (CT) 12:33:11 06/29/06 Doug, long time no see, come on out for this > - Barry'z (NJ) 14:24:05 06/29/06 My car won't be ready till about a week after that :( - BigTDogg (MA) 14:47:34 06/29/06 Part 1, Bummer. Part 2, Excellent!! (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 15:45:36 06/29/06 Barry! - Turbodog (CT) 16:18:58 06/29/06 Cool, it'll be good to catch-up! (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 22:31:17 06/29/06 The 350Z has better front suspension geometry - kuah@splparts.com 12:51:47 06/29/06 Pfft. Data! - RSR 14:50:06 06/29/06 Care to share details on your dry sump setup? - sfarrah 15:48:56 06/29/06 LOL - kuah@splparts.com 17:03:09 06/29/06 Yes, neat. Yeah, forward any info onto sfarrah. 'Preciate it (n/m) - RSR 12:06:12 06/30/06 I just wish Nissan would used leaf springs... (n/m) - pallen 13:11:47 06/29/06 like the vettes... (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 13:18:41 06/29/06 mos def (n/m) - RSR 14:50:26 06/29/06 why not go to live axle while we're at it? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:01:43 06/29/06 the best way to know is to ask the nissan engineers (n/m) - RedSER13 13:21:37 06/29/06 thanks, i'll just pick up the phone and give them a call =P (n/m) - stockplayerz (nyc) 14:17:29 06/29/06 Why? A couple hang on this board - bankruptedz 15:36:37 06/29/06 It's not the technology, it's the tuning that is important. - olyar15 14:51:46 06/29/06 chassis + suspension.. - WhiteZed 20:47:43 06/29/06 having raced against alot of different cars on the - Fleet 22:36:30 06/29/06
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