Subject	Thermal efficiency is great on paper...
Posted by	Kenny on June 19, 2006 at 12:24 PM
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In Reply To	well, you can have your pulses posted by maglito on June 19, 2006 at 11:13 AM
Message	...but when it comes down to it, you've got the equivalent of the egregious "I'm making more horsepower per liter argument." Great, you make more per liter, I'll make more period. Log manifolds just do not replicate the flow dynamics and scavenging effects of equal length, and thermal efficiency isn't going to their saving grace when we're talking performance. See every comparison dyno chart ever posted for details. For caveats about reliability, wrapping, underhood heat, etc, please read Techno's post. He said perfectly. Recursively Yours, Kenny... PETZ Member #5 SteamyZ. Never had did me wrong. - SL103 07/06/04 11:58:15
Follow Ups	Doesn't these looks familiar ? - govaardz(Aruba) 09:55:46 06/19/06 Well I mean he even mentioned Dupree by name in the post - KaZ (VaBch) 10:03:57 06/19/06 Why is everyone rehashing the same 'weak' log manifold? - ni[X]it 10:15:22 06/19/06 I didn't think there was any doubt that equal-length=better - Technomancer 10:20:12 06/19/06 Re: do we have room for such manifolds under our hoods? - ni[X]it 10:26:40 06/19/06 So would you consider the gt28rs more in the honeydew melon - CaliguyPurdue 12:17:19 06/19/06 aren't Pentroof manifolds equal length as well? - ZEngineer 10:26:10 06/19/06 I think you are correct. (n/m) - ni[X]it 10:27:25 06/19/06 some pictures - ZEngineer 10:32:26 06/19/06 Couldn't one cast a manifold of identical design to - CaliguyPurdue 10:37:53 06/19/06 I dunno, I'm still trying to figure out if Nixit was serious - ZEngineer 10:43:57 06/19/06 Log designed is fundamentally "weaker" than equal... - Kenny 12:07:07 06/19/06 ZEngineeringIntern, that's almost as hurtful as ZEngiqueer - ZEngineer 12:31:25 06/19/06 You just pissed off a whole lotta elves. (n/m) - Kenny 12:49:35 06/19/06 I'll have the roast duck with mango salsa... (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue 12:53:02 06/19/06 I don't have much of an appetite, thank you. (n/m) - Kenny 12:56:17 06/19/06 I didn't even know you guys were still around. (n/m) - Spee 12:39:48 06/20/06 any more pics? i dont see how the wastegate - kryptonite729@VP 10:48:48 06/19/06 according to Kuah, the manifolds are custom fitted - ZEngineer 10:55:38 06/19/06 well, you can have your pulses - maglito 11:13:42 06/19/06 It seems to me that you can in theory have it both ways - Technomancer 11:28:37 06/19/06 I am not aware of an equal length design that can withstand - maglito 12:49:12 06/19/06 discussion - Technomancer 13:02:28 06/19/06 >> - maglito 13:37:20 06/19/06 Re: >> - Technomancer 14:34:07 06/19/06 i read it - maglito 10:09:16 06/20/06 Yes. Search should tell you about that, keywords heat wrap. - Technomancer 14:39:21 06/20/06 Thermal efficiency is great on paper... - Kenny 12:24:48 06/19/06 it would be interesting to see a comparison - maglito 13:17:24 06/19/06 I didn't discount anything. - Kenny 13:37:17 06/19/06 I'm not as sure (esp on our engine design) - maglito 13:44:04 06/19/06 My brain is about to explode. - Kenny 13:50:03 06/19/06 the flow chats nixit posted? - maglito 14:04:12 06/19/06 The *dyno* charts you arrogant douchebag. - Kenny 14:15:47 06/19/06 Now now. No name-calling. - Technomancer 14:44:23 06/19/06 I was inviting him to join the club =). (n/m) - Kenny 14:50:23 06/19/06 Re: the flow chats nixit posted? - kuah@splparts.com 14:18:16 06/19/06 to add to that; - ni[X]it 14:53:47 06/19/06 I was thinking about that too (one port vs all ports) - maglito 17:46:03 06/19/06 Can you clarify for me which one you think is better? - kryptonite729@VP 13:49:39 06/19/06 Several dyno charts here - kuah@splparts.com 13:56:43 06/19/06 Re: Several dyno charts here - Kenny 14:00:48 06/19/06 Re: Re: Several dyno charts here - kuah@splparts.com 14:24:18 06/19/06 You are both saying the same thing. (n/m) - Technomancer 14:27:34 06/19/06 You are right! (n/m) - kuah@splparts.com 14:54:22 06/19/06 can you feel the love?! (n/m) - Guapo 14:56:57 06/19/06 Careful guys, Guapo recently named his member "the love." (n/m) - Kenny 15:00:26 06/19/06 LOL (n/m) - govaardz(Aruba) 21:53:03 06/19/06 lots of the videos appear to be dead links. - dvlhntr 14:30:35 06/19/06 BTW, that being said, packaging difficulties w/ equal length - kuah@splparts.com 15:08:18 06/19/06 just for fun - maglito 17:44:16 06/19/06 Our old nice looking forum got trashed about 8 weeks ago - Tektrader69 18:22:16 06/19/06 Re: Our old nice looking forum got trashed about 8 weeks ago - minivan 19:08:26 06/19/06 The steel will crack. (n/m) - govaardz(Aruba) 21:49:01 06/19/06 Re: The steel will crack???? - Tektrader69 05:13:54 06/20/06 is it just me or is the Z on thier site really ugly??? - Zski 10:41:56 06/19/06 It's roughly as bad as your spelling. (n/m) - Kenny 12:10:02 06/19/06 never said i was good at it.... (n/m) - Zski 12:18:57 06/19/06 you for sure. :/ (n/m) - SactoTodd 14:20:30 06/19/06 3d model... (n/m) - 91Z32TT 15:42:51 06/19/06 It's CG...not real. (n/m) - BooZTT (Hawaii) 17:21:40 06/19/06 Looks more like RTZ than SpecialtyZ - SpecNATT (Houston) 22:44:51 06/19/06
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