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Posted by	Z U N L on May 30, 2006 at 12:53 AM
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In Reply To	Re: To all you anti FMIC's (in other words everyone here) posted by zxtuner161 on May 30, 2006 at 12:35 AM
Message	I don't profess to know a whole lot about this crap, and I really don't care much about the debate of SMIC vs FMIC for the most part, but... From the highlighted portion of that writeup, it's not staying that FMIC are superior or inferior in respects to cross-feeding the intake banks. The true test of an intercooler on the Z32 is its heat transfer and flow characteristics. The drawbacks of going to FMIC are that: (A) You either have to ghetto-hack your front fascia (as you have done) or get an aftermarket fascia with a large open mouth that will provide ample and balanced airflow through the two chambers. (Not to mention any hacking you may or may not have to do to the actual bumper.) (B) There are more SMIC options than there are FMIC options available that have been thoroughly tested and proven. I don't have any quantitative data on this (since it isn't personally relevant to me), but many accounts that I have heard of the Apollo FMIC is that it is poorly designed and results in significant pressure drop. ::shrug:: So if I were interested in upgraded intercoolers, why would that appeal to me? "The two seater is being joined in a few weeks by a larger two-plus-two model with a rear seat for munchkins." ~Jim Mateja, Chicago Tribune, in regards to the Z32. Andrew Janeshek // jnshk@aol.com // 1992 NA 2+2 [Stage 2-ish]
Follow Ups	To all you anti FMIC's (in other words everyone here) - zxtuner161 23:37:24 05/29/06 Your fascia looks like those bikers that went head first - Cincyzx 23:44:50 05/29/06 ok so what are we looking at? - 93silverTT 23:55:14 05/29/06 *broken* (n/m) - Moxie 00:13:49 05/30/06 He's referring to this section... - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:09:51 05/30/06 That section is incorrect. (n/m) - Marshall 12:23:09 05/30/06 Your fascia reminds me of this. - brahmabull (NoVA) 00:15:36 05/30/06 predator - dream Z (MD) 13:12:55 05/30/06 Re: To all you anti FMIC's (in other words everyone here) - zxtuner161 00:35:09 05/30/06 And if you knew anything about fmic's you would - 300zib(NoVA) 00:44:55 05/30/06 Re: And if you knew anything about fmic's you would - zxtuner161 00:48:04 05/30/06 Please Noob, you have 461 hits. - brahmabull (NoVA) 00:47:04 05/30/06 Re: Please Noob, you have 461 hits. - zxtuner161 00:49:32 05/30/06 Your profile says nothing about Stage 2s...first of all. - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:03:40 05/30/06 Re: Your profile says nothing about Stage 2s...first of all. - zxtuner161 01:08:06 05/30/06 Why not 740 or 850cc's. - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:25:52 05/30/06 Re: Why not 740 or 850cc's. - zxtuner161 01:30:54 05/30/06 Just so you know... - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:38:11 05/30/06 Re: Just so you know... - zxtuner161 01:47:26 05/30/06 Stock SMIC location on your car makes the oil cooler hotter - BigTDogg (MA) 13:46:04 05/30/06 ... - Z U N L 00:53:23 05/30/06 Re: ... - zxtuner161 01:00:11 05/30/06 Is that conjecture? - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:14:52 05/30/06 Re: Is that conjecture? - zxtuner161 01:20:46 05/30/06 OK, thanks for being honest about it. - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:33:53 05/30/06 ...which still leaves you radiator getting hot air. (n/m) - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:15:52 05/30/06 Re: ...which still leaves you radiator getting hot air. - zxtuner161 01:17:45 05/30/06 I miss Florida. - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:24:40 05/30/06 Re: I miss Florida. - zxtuner161 01:27:49 05/30/06 please stop posting, noob. - Marshall 12:19:56 05/30/06 Is that your SRT? If so, how is it? Im planning on - jobambo 00:45:00 05/30/06 Re: Is that your SRT? If so, how is it? Im planning on - zxtuner161 01:12:21 05/30/06 troll (n/m) - aliaZ 00:45:41 05/30/06 Okay so if you want a dyno queen you get a FMIC. - TBlakeZ (NorCal) 00:48:53 05/30/06 Re: Okay so if you want a dyno queen you get a FMIC. - zxtuner161 00:50:05 05/30/06 Never said it did. - TBlakeZ (NorCal) 01:06:19 05/30/06 TBlakeZ...you are a voice of reason. (n/m) - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:20:25 05/30/06 ... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 09:36:02 05/30/06 WOW! Ready in 90 Seconds!!! - Adam (NoVA) 00:53:21 05/30/06 How's she runnin? - brahmabull (NoVA) 01:11:11 05/30/06 rofl (n/m) - CollegeBoy 01:14:50 05/30/06 Look here. - 92fairladyz (Yokosuka, Japan) 01:18:08 05/30/06 Spoken for truth. (n/m) - BooZTT (Hawaii) 09:37:10 05/30/06 Look man..bottom line... - CollegeBoy 01:21:00 05/30/06 Re: Look man..bottom line... - zxtuner161 01:24:22 05/30/06 Let me clarify what my point of this was - zxtuner161 01:34:22 05/30/06 I already disproved the so-called Nixit engine balancing - AzHeat 01:41:00 05/30/06 Re: I already disproved the so-called Nixit engine balancing - zxtuner161 01:44:58 05/30/06 Thank you oh wonderful god of Z tuning - SeedyROM 02:39:54 05/30/06 I was hoping you would chime in. (n/m) - brahmabull (NoVA) 03:18:55 05/30/06 The crossflow/engine balancing argument is a - AzHeat 09:59:47 05/30/06 Your reputation preceeds you. - Marshall 12:07:32 05/30/06 Read my mind. (n/m) - SeedyROM 13:18:24 05/30/06 Oh you have a mind? (n/m) - AzHeat 16:35:33 05/30/06 Mature response (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 15:35:21 05/31/06 What side is the incorrect side? I don't believe - AzHeat 14:52:40 05/30/06 actually... - Z U N L 12:10:02 05/30/06 There is no conjecture for the cross-flow - AzHeat 14:57:41 05/30/06 As usual, you proved nothing. (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:28:38 05/30/06 As usual you can't read, it is stated - AzHeat 09:54:47 05/30/06 Yo dumber! BMW=inline 6 & Z32=V6 - Spongerider :) 12:45:00 05/30/06 Ba ha ha ha , just proved my point, lack of reading - AzHeat 14:47:37 05/30/06 ... - Medici (NorCal) 02:17:52 05/30/06 A properly designed FMIC will work great... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 04:47:54 05/30/06 For reference: - BooZTT (Hawaii) 04:53:54 05/30/06 Wow! A properly designed FMIC! - Rob'Z 20:56:58 05/30/06 I'm all about functionality... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 21:05:13 05/30/06 Re: A properly designed FMIC will work great... - gclasse 07:51:21 05/30/06 Closed-minded? Riddle me this... - SeedyROM 13:40:04 05/30/06 It's impractical to have a car with more than 300HP - AzHeat 15:00:37 05/30/06 No, it's impractical to have a Z sitting in a garage - Spongerider :) 17:21:25 05/30/06 What are you talking about? Are you on crack? (n/m) - AzHeat 17:47:09 05/30/06 ?? Uh? (n/m) - Spongerider :) 18:30:25 05/30/06 Touché! (n/m) - BooZTT (Hawaii) 18:08:26 05/30/06 Hey Seedy... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 18:06:25 05/30/06 Man you sure showed us. (n/m) - Redrum 06:00:15 05/30/06 Man, I can't imagine what this thread would've - GamblerZ 08:23:25 05/30/06 That does not address any of the reasons FMICs suck. - Kenny 08:56:45 05/30/06 A poorly designed SMIC is no better than... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 09:22:12 05/30/06 Right, but... - Kenny 11:33:35 05/30/06 Hahahaha... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 17:44:04 05/30/06 That's how implications work. - Kenny 18:51:19 05/30/06 Implied? Haha...perception is the killer... - BooZTT (Hawaii) 19:44:47 05/30/06 That's false. - Marshall 12:09:59 05/30/06 Captain Obvious!!! - BooZTT (Hawaii) 17:48:12 05/30/06 That article proved nothing. - BigTDogg (MA) 09:59:16 05/30/06 The problem is these ricers want to argue that... - Kenny 11:37:15 05/30/06 what the hell did you do your bumper? (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 10:12:01 05/30/06 Sections of that article are completely incorrect. - Marshall 11:54:51 05/30/06 That article does not talk about feed back loop. - AzHeat 15:35:19 05/30/06 I think I want to settle this FMIC vs SMIC - dream Z (MD) 12:33:40 05/30/06 You wouldn't need to do a track day as nice as it would be - SeedyROM 13:23:36 05/30/06 Yeah I know just wish I knew that before I had - dream Z (MD) 13:36:26 05/30/06 Re: I think I want to settle this FMIC vs SMIC - pallen 14:25:30 05/30/06 (Total Hits: 566). (n/m) - Spongerider :) 12:45:29 05/30/06 (Total Hits: a lot). POST WHORE!! LOL! (n/m) - BooZTT (Hawaii) 17:49:25 05/30/06 Howzit! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 18:07:11 05/30/06 Killahs! Just busy! (n/m) - BooZTT (Hawaii) 18:09:48 05/30/06 The crossflow design most certainly helps in balancing. - John B. 17:14:31 05/30/06 You're all a bunch of whiny, stubborn bitches - Sonar TT 18:42:26 05/30/06 (Total Hits: 35). Now go back to the 3zDUBclub. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 18:46:55 05/30/06 Yes, I'm new to this board... and you're still whiny bitches (n/m) - Sonar TT 19:20:32 05/30/06 Re: Yes, I'm new to this board... and you're still whiny bitches (n/m) - Spongerider :) 19:21:29 05/30/06 n00b! - Cincyzx 23:08:20 05/30/06 It's a nickname given to bodyboarders. ;-) (n/m) - Spongerider :) 13:47:29 05/31/06 Really? i always assumed it was referring to - Joe(NoVA) 15:36:53 05/31/06 Feel free to leave if you want. No harm...no foul! (n/m) - Only1Z 21:06:33 05/30/06 Nah... think I'll hang around... get my noob on... - Sonar TT 12:08:19 05/31/06 Read this link>>>> - Spongerider :) 18:43:24 05/30/06 Owning a Neon is like being in the Special Olympics - dummy76 19:19:14 05/30/06
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