Subject	??? That is how they do it
Posted by	SeedyROM on May 04, 2006 at 1:45 PM
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In Reply To	It is surprising that Nissan didn't take this route posted by Joe(NoVA) on May 04, 2006 at 12:37 PM
Message	It's an added safety measure built into the system. However, it's not a golden ticket to go nuts with the primary tune. The reason for many of us is that you now rely on other parts of the system, including sensors which are known to go bad in these older cars, to catch the problem and tell the ECM to switch over. I'd much rather have my initial tune well within safety margins to begin with. As usual, it boils down to the same things it always does. Risk versus gain. For some this varies wildly. "If I'm an asshole it's only because I've been turned into one by the sheer amount of stupid people and stupid logic that dominate Twinturbo.net today." My Zs: www.zheaven.com - Pics and information about both of my 300ZXs - Down for now Member: www.SoCalZCrew.com - Come find out how we do it in the West!
Follow Ups	Regarding JWT chips and safety. - DVDBURN (MD) 09:15:39 05/04/06 thanks for the info (n/m) - Atl300zxTT (Extremely Lazy) 09:23:42 05/04/06 So... - Kenny 09:25:22 05/04/06 Yup. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 09:39:39 05/04/06 ... - spicyZ 09:43:37 05/04/06 Re: ... - DVDBURN (MD) 10:09:57 05/04/06 Re: Re: ... - Kenny 10:45:29 05/04/06 2nd (n/m) - aliaZ 11:22:29 05/04/06 3rd. Original post was all conjecture. - AntiHero 12:30:10 05/04/06 and obviously i know code is stored in rom somewhere... - AntiHero 12:33:38 05/04/06 Re: - spicyZ 12:31:44 05/04/06 Re: Re: - DVDBURN (MD) 12:46:43 05/04/06 Safety boost and limp mode are not the same thing - spicyZ 13:02:22 05/04/06 Yes, you are absolutely correct and I apologize. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 13:41:36 05/04/06 So much for "experience and research" (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 13:55:58 05/04/06 If this is your best answers,this post should be disregarded - AntiHero 12:46:23 05/04/06 hmm - aliaZ 09:54:11 05/04/06 Re: hmm - DVDBURN (MD) 10:14:33 05/04/06 Do you realize.. - John B. 10:51:36 05/04/06 Or for that matter, anytime they are cold? - Joe(NoVA) 10:57:20 05/04/06 this completely refutes the theory... (n/m) - AntiHero 12:48:18 05/04/06 Why is the secondary map best left untouched? (n/m) - dpjax 10:07:32 05/04/06 To keep the system constant, providing consistent power. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 10:18:34 05/04/06 I thought we were worried about safety? (n/m) - Joe(NoVA) 12:33:18 05/04/06 Re: I thought we were worried about safety? - DVDBURN (MD) 12:35:09 05/04/06 Incorrect >> - ztunerz 11:08:21 05/04/06 Re: Incorrect >> - DVDBURN (MD) 11:41:31 05/04/06 Just right enough to fool people - Jehannum 14:03:41 05/04/06 what about ignition timing? (n/m) - scubasteve (rebuilding) 13:16:31 05/05/06 Ignition timing is different on my JWT - Jehannum 14:27:45 05/05/06 Which begs the question: - Joe(NoVA) 10:28:50 05/04/06 Good Points....I am curious about that too. (n/m) - Unluky (MO) 10:58:11 05/04/06 i agree and waiting for some answers - Max865(ATL) 11:06:16 05/04/06 Secondary maps and injectors - Jehannum 19:00:08 05/04/06 Re: Which begs the question: - DVDBURN (MD) 11:06:27 05/04/06 I'd rather have more fuel and retarded timing - Joe(NoVA) 11:16:24 05/04/06 To correct you too >> - ztunerz 11:21:19 05/04/06 I didn't say he was the only one who does it - Joe(NoVA) 12:28:10 05/04/06 Re: I didn't say he was the only one who does it - DVDBURN (MD) 12:39:27 05/04/06 I'm not risking anything - Joe(NoVA) 13:05:32 05/04/06 Yes, that is all correct - Jehannum 14:32:19 05/05/06 Thanks for the info. (n/m) - Piranha(Omaha) 11:04:39 05/04/06 I think the "limp" mode you are referring too is something - Russell@Z1 11:12:34 05/04/06 2nd. I have experimented with this as well (n/m) - kaosTTZ 11:35:03 05/04/06 If what you are saying is correct >>> - ztunerz 11:17:54 05/04/06 Re: If what you are saying is correct >>> - DVDBURN (MD) 11:51:13 05/04/06 Right. JWT relies on a safe CORE map rather than "hoping" - SeedyROM 11:57:57 05/04/06 It is surprising that Nissan didn't take this route - Joe(NoVA) 12:37:38 05/04/06 Re: It is surprising that Nissan didn't take this route - DVDBURN (MD) 12:41:43 05/04/06 ??? That is how they do it - SeedyROM 13:45:17 05/04/06 I don't see what was so hard for both of you to understand.. - Joe(NoVA) 13:54:40 05/04/06 Don't make the mistake of lumping me in with him - SeedyROM 18:22:40 05/04/06 Nah, its cool - Joe(NoVA) 19:49:09 05/04/06 Here we go again........................ - Riddick 11:52:11 05/04/06 I just put a hi-performance Vaccum tube in my ECU *shrug* (n/m) - Waco300zx 12:07:12 05/04/06 An excellent discussion. Thank you all. (n/m) - TT XTZ 12:21:13 05/04/06 Safety maps are programmed into the EPROM. - Jehannum 13:02:03 05/04/06 Yes, you're absolutely correct. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 13:45:32 05/04/06
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