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i removed the glare gaurds and upgraded to whatever the higher watt bulbs are (55w?? i forget) previously, so they were bright to begin with. as i said before, i was still able to use them to find curbs at night. i would say they were slightly less bright than 100% stock fogs after all was said and done. i had mine aimed out and down to the sides, not where they are supposed to be aimed, so i never used them as "fog lights" properly anyway. just remember that with the shadows and whatnot, you don't need a dark tint at all.

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