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Posted by mousersix (San Antonio) on January 19, 2006 at 3:21 PM
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In Reply To would it matter if it was before or after the MAF? (n/m) posted by mousersix (San Antonio) on January 19, 2006 at 02:51 PM
     
Message I used the online help feature to actually talk to a sales rep for that company. Didn't seem like he knew much more than what was shown on display at SEMA, but there is a bit of info. Here's the transcript:

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Tony: Welcome to our live chat service. How may I help you today?
you: whats up tony
you: i have a tech question
Tony: whats up
Tony: shoot
you: on one of your products
Tony: i will try my best
you: on the cryo intake system
you: if I purchased this and installed it, woud it matter if it was before or after the mass airflow sensor?
you: this is for a 1990 nissan 300zxtt if it matters
Tony: well, let me check, hold on one sec
you: okay
Tony: still looking, i dont think it matters but just let me be sure
you: k
you: I'm about to post this info on twinturbo.net, so if you have any details please let me know
Tony: well are you using it to cool the intercooler since you have turbo
you: well from what I understand it will cool the intake air temps
you: if I installed it it would be after the filter, which would feed both turbos
you: i suppose i could add one before each intercooler
you: that's why im asking if it matters if its before or after the MAF
Tony: yes, you can also get the intercooler kit
Tony: i would say before mass air but give me one more sec i know i have the install somewhere around here
you: yeah seems like that would be the ideal place, but with my (and a lot of other peoples) intake setup with the JWT pop charger, it's gonna be hard to get it in there before the MAF
you: since the filter bolts right up to the MAF
Tony: yea thats what i was just thinking, but i dont foresee any issues with installing it after the MAF, it is still going to do the same thing and cool the air
you: true, but you don't think that unmetered cooling and condensing effect will cause problems with A/F ratio? sorry for all the questions :)
you: also, do you know of this kit being installed on a 300zx?
you: if so, what gains?
Tony: dude no problem, i would rather learn something than just talk out of my rear
you: yeah man
Tony: i dont just because we dont sell stuff for the 300's
you: yeah but seems like it's pretty much universal
you: it's probably fine after the MAF
you: one more Q - do yall have any dynos to back this up? i mean it makes sense but without hard numbers, a lot of people are skeptical
Tony: i was too, but i saw for my own eyes while i was at SEMA this year and they were there with the numbers to prove it, i have to see if i can get something from their website
Tony: i think i found it, hold on one sec
Tony: 1. Install Tank and Installation Kit (part #080100) prior to installing this product, do not
Tony: attach solenoid to any of the wiring components at this time.
Tony: 2. Locate a straight segment of existing air intak e tube that you can insert the CryO2
Tony: intake. Lay out the entire air intake system before installing the CryO2 segment and
Tony: make sure it is applicable.
Tony: 3. A four-inch piece of the existing tube may need to be removed or cut off to attach the
Tony: CryO2 intake segment.
Tony: NOTE: Be sure not to interfere with sensors, mass air flow meters, etc.
Tony: 4. Attach the silicone sleeve to the CryO2 intake segment and add the hose clamps to the
Tony: sleeve.
Tony: 5. Insert the CryO2 segment into the air intake or intercooler piping.
Tony: NOTE: The round portion of the CryO2 bulb faces against the flow of intake and the
Tony: pointed end faces the throttle body.
Tony: it just says be sure not to interfere with the sensors, but not if you can put it in front or behind
Tony: so i dont think it will make a difference
you: right
you: cool
you: good info
you: anywhere i can find the dynos?
Tony: no prob
Tony: im looking right now, but i dont know, i am just searching
Tony: here is the rest of install info if it helps at all
Tony: 6. Tighten the hose clamps on the silicone sleeve. Be sure not to over tighten or damage to
Tony: tube might occur.
Tony: NOTE: You might need another silicone sleeve since some intake systems don?t come
Tony: with one.
Tony: 7. Attach the 1/8 NPT OUT port of the solenoid to one of the 1/8 fittings on the CryO2
Tony: intake segment. Use Teflon paste for secure fit.
Tony: NOTE: Use extreme caution when treading fittings on. Be careful not to over tighten or
Tony: force fittings on to the CryO2 fittings. This could destroy or strip the threads on the
Tony: CryO2 segment.
Tony: 8. On the other 1/8 NPT intake fitting attach the vent cap, which has a vent hole drilled in
Tony: to it, if not going to another CryO2 product. Again use Teflon paste to seal the threading.
Tony: WARNING! Keep all released or vented CO2 away from the intake or this could cause a
Tony: vehicle to stall due to oxygen deprivation.
Tony: 9. If wanting to go to another component or venting away from intake, attach the 1/8 NPT
Tony: female to 4AN male fitting to the open 1/8 NPT male fitting on the CryO2 intake
Tony: segment Teflon may be needed.
Tony: 10. Attach vent/connection hose to 4AN male fitting.
Tony: 11. Attach the 1/8 NPT fitting to the next component or connect the vent cap.
Tony: NOTE: If using as a vent hose make sure to secure line or it will fly around during
Tony: activation of system.
Tony: 12. Attach solenoid wiring as described in Tank Installation Owner Manual.
you: thanks for all your help, I'll continue my search for the dyno w/google

-Andrew
'90 Aztec Red NA > TT

     
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