Subject	So I guess the ultimate stage one and two should be
Posted by	turtleboy on December 19, 2005 at 6:52 PM
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In Reply To	On the lines of what Snoguitar said posted by NytWolf on December 19, 2005 at 06:36 PM
Message	Simply removing the exhaust and intake? What about downpipes? They are considered a +, not a stage. They in effect do the exact same thing as the rest of the exhaust system, and is still not considered a stage. Also.. essentialy everything you do to the engine.. whether it be flywheel, turbos, injectors affect the engines combustion to a degree. My point in responding to your post is that intake and exhaust do no ADD horsepower, anyone with any basic knowledge of how an internal combustion engine works has to agree with that. If you saw my other post in this thread you would realize my main point is that stages are bullshit anyways. They are only there to impress people who don't know what they are talking about or for idiots to brag to other idiots. ------ Boost your knowledge.
Follow Ups	Why does no one consider UD pulley a stage??? - tdogzjoint 00:38:49 12/19/05 people do, just most combine them with the intake as a + (n/m) - Initial Z 00:50:48 12/19/05 Because it doesn't affect combustion. - Snoguitar 01:01:26 12/19/05 Exactly - NytWolf 01:21:39 12/19/05 So i guess putting in boost jets would be freeing up HP then (n/m) - Chase86 02:39:00 12/19/05 boost...jets...increase...horsepower (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 02:49:26 12/19/05 NO, Putting boost jets actually RAISES your boost level - Shawn300zTT GT28R MD 02:52:24 12/19/05 slows down the *pressure* signal to the actuators.. - Shawn300zTT GT28R MD 08:44:16 12/19/05 You haven't described boost jets properly. They are - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 09:33:45 12/19/05 thats what I meant, - Shawn300zTT GT28R MD 10:57:17 12/19/05 They're stored for winter, along with the rest of the car ;) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 09:51:44 12/20/05 Intake and exhaust are two obvious examples disprooving your - turtleboy 06:39:13 12/19/05 That's where you misunderstand - NytWolf 16:13:52 12/19/05 You said it yourself, they allow more horse power - turtleboy 17:32:37 12/19/05 On the lines of what Snoguitar said - NytWolf 18:36:29 12/19/05 So I guess the ultimate stage one and two should be - turtleboy 18:52:30 12/19/05 you just negated yourself - ZLover4Life 03:32:32 12/20/05 Stages are bullshit so who cares anyway? (n/m) - turtleboy 06:40:48 12/19/05 it pains me to say this, but I agree. (n/m) - Spee 10:12:04 12/19/05 i agree more. who cares?!? (n/m) - RedSER13 10:38:51 12/19/05 3rd! (n/m) - Loquatios7 11:21:52 12/19/05 IMO, stage charts are helpful for inexperienced modders - Zirvana 15:10:05 12/19/05 I remember when it was fun to say it was a "stage 5" etc - Shawn300zTT GT28R MD 04:42:01 12/20/05 Stages is for marketing of JWT and Stillen. who - AzHeat 11:51:14 12/19/05 Re: If no one cares then don't waste time posting replies. (n/m) - tdogzjoint 12:05:43 12/19/05 Better than doing work :/ (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:45:26 12/19/05 If it makes you feel better and more important than - AzHeat 13:39:10 12/19/05
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