| I don't think John is trying to put down anything or anyone. I think he has pictures of the GT28R install in the car. No one is trying to say MS manifolds are bad or anything. All thats happening is that we have to identical products introduced virtually simultaneously. I think the its better for the customer that this happened. Think about it. I am a bit confused about why people try to put down people that try to be innovative. The manifold thing is an example and so is the ASH thing. Why not let people come up with stuff and hopefully some of the stuff benifits the Z communtity at large. Harry
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