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Pretty much what I was going to say myself, but you're better at putting  it succinctly.  ;-)The only thing I disagree with is your statement that this forum is no  different than others. I find that tt.net is actually the most mature  collection of forums I have ever visited, and I think that's partially due to  the moderators, and partially due to the members policing themselves.  Whatever the magic formula is, I really appreciate it. This forum has the  same shortcomings as real-life social groups but manages, in my eyes,  to maintain high enough quality to be worth my time. Interestingly, just  like the real-life Z folks I've met. Maybe it's the car that makes the  difference; the previous car folks I talked to lacked the caliber of you  guys both in the forum and in person. Just like in real life, ignore the folks hurling insults at you from the safety  of their own cars, and give your attention to those you enjoy being with. 
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