Subject	Its not that simple
Posted by	Russell@Z1 on January 28, 2005 at 2:10 PM
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In Reply To	heat exchange > flow rate posted by genic on January 28, 2005 at 01:26 PM
Message	One may be more restrictive than the other to the point that even though it drop temps more it still doesn't result in the most overall power. You also have to imagine that the more restrictive intercoolers may exchange heat better because they are slowing the air down and keeping it in the intercooler longer. The less restictive ones just let the air pass on by without having as much thermal effect on it. What you are looking for is the right balance, which in our mind is the intercooler that makes the most peak power. We think we have that. Russell Floyd Z1 Motorsports www.z1motorsports.com 1990+ Nissan Z specialists Used Parts, New parts, Service/Repair and Performance 1200 Carrollton Hwy Temple, Ga 30179 770-562-8668 770-562-8664 (fax)
Follow Ups	Side mount vs front mount debate - ZisLuv 04:23:57 01/28/05 I still dont like the idea - BOOZTD 3 04:27:44 01/28/05 2ND! (n/m) - WhiteOutZ 11:35:01 01/28/05 Re: Side mount vs front mount debate - zx spinner 05:39:52 01/28/05 Debate? What debate? - SeedyROM 05:41:32 01/28/05 Thanks! I love seeing posts like this - BOOZTD 3 05:44:53 01/28/05 Well it's mainly the Z32 I'm talking about - SeedyROM 06:04:12 01/28/05 I see what your saying, but our arguments - BOOZTD 3 06:07:33 01/28/05 Damn Ricer! (n/m) - kryptonite729 08:37:14 01/28/05 I think we ALL have that "Supra wannabe FMIC owns!" friend (n/m) - College Boy 12:39:30 01/28/05 LOL (n/m) - BOOZTD 3 16:42:21 01/28/05 bookmarked. (n/m) - ChazZ 06:00:05 01/28/05 Ugh, it's 4am so forgive the typos (n/m) - SeedyROM 06:06:40 01/28/05 I don't quite agree - aliaZ 07:14:14 01/28/05 Re: I don't quite agree - Enlitened 10:15:29 01/28/05 damn dude - Marshall 10:39:24 01/28/05 2nd, 3rd and 4th. It is not a "fact" it is theory at - AzHeat 10:43:16 01/28/05 You're a master at sounding smart and stating nothing at all - SeedyROM 12:20:45 01/28/05 Talk to Aliaz and Marshall, they are not buying it either - AzHeat 12:46:01 01/28/05 I agree with Seedy about the FMIC's - Marshall 13:00:01 01/28/05 I don't disagree that the SMIC is a better alternative - AzHeat 13:06:17 01/28/05 you sound like a broken record on this topic - fourZero 13:15:18 01/28/05 Sorry, but it's in 2 publications on the Z32 - SeedyROM 11:44:43 01/28/05 And plus sidemounts retain the nice "stock" look. :-) (n/m) - Marshall 11:47:13 01/28/05 That's always a plus =) (n/m) - SeedyROM 11:58:18 01/28/05 Sorry, but that doesn't prove anything - aliaZ 12:30:29 01/28/05 2nd Thank you (n/m) - AzHeat 12:41:52 01/28/05 How is what you're saying any different? - SeedyROM 12:47:58 01/28/05 :) - aliaZ 12:54:35 01/28/05 I hear that =) (n/m) - SeedyROM 13:06:13 01/28/05 you are high - genic 08:15:28 01/28/05 Actually I am. Two Endocet (n/m) - Arturo C. 00:20:25 01/29/05 Interesting- I have a thought about that. - Marshall 10:33:12 01/28/05 I agree completely.... - ZisLuv 11:53:45 01/28/05 It removes a check and balance - Marshall 12:35:39 01/28/05 Here are two parts of an article I also have - SeedyROM 12:17:50 01/28/05 Nice article. What's that from? - Marshall 12:54:45 01/28/05 agreed - aliaZ 13:01:17 01/28/05 That article does not support the argument of exhaust - AzHeat 13:02:26 01/28/05 Two things - SeedyROM 13:09:05 01/28/05 It was listed here the article. I will do search. Not - AzHeat 13:12:26 01/28/05 spot on...god 411, could you post the rest of that artcl? - quikz 13:21:29 01/28/05 I would but it's a 100 page Guide to the 90+ 300ZX - SeedyROM 13:47:04 01/28/05 E-mail me with an AIM SN, I will zip it to you. (n/m) - whitepearlz 14:00:46 01/28/05 I was going to post that last article, too =) That magazine - whitepearlz 13:59:41 01/28/05 I'd like that too please - aliaZ 14:10:07 01/28/05 Please send me the zip as well - Nazgul 14:34:04 01/28/05 I'd like a copy too if you don't mind. (n/m) - Dustin 15:57:48 01/28/05 me too please - Marshall 16:02:19 01/28/05 I'll take a copy. (n/m) - trackstar 17:02:15 01/28/05 Me too please. arturo.c.morales@excite.com (n/m) - Arturo C. 00:19:16 01/29/05 My experience on FMIC's pro/cons - MOTRSPRT--ID 06:33:49 01/28/05 Best intercooler is.......... - 00Evan 08:02:32 01/28/05 Z1's front mount intercooler on russells car is not like - atl300zxtt 08:37:14 01/28/05 Good analogy of 2 SMIC's together. - MOTRSPRT--ID 15:40:01 01/28/05 here is some reading for you - aliaZ 08:02:01 01/28/05 Re: here is some reading for you - scottsi 09:08:26 01/28/05 based on what? (n/m) - Guapo 09:12:50 01/28/05 I just don't know what to say to that. - Toso 11:08:25 01/28/05 LOL silly nubs. (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 12:04:20 01/28/05 Good reading, thanks aliaz - BombSeeker (FL) 09:15:00 01/28/05 Thanks, some very interesting reading. Wonder if I can - ZisLuv 11:44:12 01/28/05 Both bookmarked, thanks. (n/m) - SeedyROM 11:56:59 01/28/05 It's interesting that a shop like SGP says the smallish - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:04:30 01/28/05 We agree, Z1 SMICs are more than enough for 98% applications (n/m) - Russell@Z1 09:33:13 01/28/05 lol (n/m) - Guapo 09:42:21 01/28/05 that testamony makes me want 2 side mount for my sr20. (n/m) - Halo Z 09:50:03 01/28/05 agree on the greddy or the z1's ... (n/m) - genic 09:51:43 01/28/05 I think he was agreeing SMICs are more than enough - KaZ (VaBch) 11:24:31 01/28/05 on another note - genic 12:01:36 01/28/05 The Greddy's are whats going on my car right now... - 90VG30TT 10:31:38 01/28/05 Kyle ran 10's with the Greddy SMICs. Good enough for me! :) (n/m) - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 11:26:37 01/28/05 I have the Greddys on my car now...the owner - College Boy 12:44:25 01/28/05 do stock ducts bolt onto greddys? (n/m) - SpecNATT (Houston) 19:11:48 01/28/05 Yes with some minor modifications. (n/m) - Arturo C. 00:31:08 01/29/05 Why is this still a debate? - whitepearlz 09:53:30 01/28/05 Re: Why is this still a debate? - Supratt85 10:32:37 01/28/05 Well put. (n/m) - SeedyROM 12:21:38 01/28/05 w3rd - ottyz 14:44:06 01/28/05 Greddy, HKS, or Stillen SMIC? - joshsworld21 10:12:39 01/28/05 Re: Greddy, HKS, or Stillen SMIC? - genic 10:15:01 01/28/05 I like my Stillen, but all of them are great (n/m) - Moxie 10:19:23 01/28/05 Re: Greddy, HKS, or Stillen SMIC? - Russell@Z1 10:30:25 01/28/05 Stillens Are the best of those 3, then Greddy, then HKS. (n/m) - T0M 10:39:35 01/28/05 we agree, Z1 SMICs are not in the same category (n/m) - genic 10:54:11 01/28/05 Why? - Joe(NoVA) 11:24:32 01/28/05 Re: Why? - genic 11:36:06 01/28/05 From your chart it looks like Z1 made more HP than Stillen. (n/m) - Godspeed_racer 12:04:07 01/28/05 Temp drop - Guapo 12:11:50 01/28/05 oh, I would rather have a cooler motor than a couple of hp. (n/m) - Godspeed_racer 12:13:56 01/28/05 not water temps, air temps before and after the IC - Guapo 12:18:54 01/28/05 please tell me if I understand this correctly... - Godspeed_racer 12:31:24 01/28/05 Re: please tell me if I understand this correctly... - Russell@Z1 13:20:02 01/28/05 heat exchange > flow rate - genic 13:26:13 01/28/05 Its not that simple - Russell@Z1 14:10:26 01/28/05 Do the duct play a "signifiacant" role? If so was it used on - Godspeed_racer 14:45:58 01/28/05 Re: Do the duct play a "signifiacant" role? If so was it used on - Russell@Z1 15:21:22 01/28/05 correct... - genic 12:10:27 01/28/05 actually, of all the sidemounts, the UAS sidemount is better - T0M 11:41:45 01/28/05 I thought UAS was just front mount? (n/m) - College Boy 12:46:21 01/28/05 nope, they sell side mounts too (n/m) - aliaZ 13:19:53 01/28/05 go with T0ms FMIC. - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 10:56:07 01/28/05 Where are Tom's charts you speak of? I have been - AzHeat 11:17:33 01/28/05 I dont have pressure drop comparisons - T0M 11:34:22 01/28/05 Stillen! If you ever hold any of them... - WhiteOutZ 11:37:10 01/28/05 Intercoolers and contraversy - UNIQUE ZED 14:31:40 01/28/05 More info - UNIQUE ZED 14:49:22 01/28/05 lol sorry john - ZisLuv 00:41:57 01/29/05 Yeah right - UNIQUE ZED 18:55:40 01/29/05 Need to explain - UNIQUE ZED 19:08:06 01/29/05 I've got something brewing........ (n/m) - Ash's Z 16:34:53 01/28/05 Tell us? (n/m) - DougZXTT 19:27:05 01/28/05 Moonshine? - Arturo C. 00:39:36 01/29/05
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