track (MSR) yesterday. Amazing- absolutely no fade whatsoever after 3 sessions, my braking distances (and lap times) were significantly decreased. I am not saying they are better than stoptechs, as I do not own stoptechs, but they are superb at the road course. Russell has proven that as well with many years of hard driving on the Wilwoods. Changing the pads out is much easier than with the stock calipers as well.