Subject	good, finally we're all making sense here...
Posted by	ZEngineer (TT) on October 08, 2004 at 2:10 PM
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In Reply To	So you're saying a geared car is slower? Are you nuts? posted by SeedyROM on October 08, 2004 at 02:04 PM
Message	you're absolutely correct, as a person who has newly been admitted to the cult of Turboism, I was thinking about it ONLY under boost terms. Through this headache that was this thread, I at the very least was able to convince you that the NA gears are not a 100% advantage, in the sense that as the NA geared car is shifting, the stock geared car has a distinct advantage. Now, whether or not the stock geared car will catch up and pass the other car is beyond the scope of this thread :-) but I hope you understand my point now and don't think I'm some raving lunatic! :-) George _________________________________________________________________________________ "The Z is the cause and the solution to all my problems" -- Me "thanks.. sand paper and scrubbing? wow.. thats alot of handjob." -- SonicZ, June 02, 2004 at 1:24 PM
Follow Ups	New secret weapon mod for our cars. - ZHOUND 12:26:19 10/08/04 You left out the "n" in "performance" at the top of the page (n/m) - Marshall 12:34:23 10/08/04 Oops. - ZHOUND 12:37:45 10/08/04 The site looks good. - Marshall 12:48:20 10/08/04 Re: The site looks good. - ZHOUND 12:51:15 10/08/04 I can't imagine what your car could do with that! - BigTDogg (MA) 12:36:05 10/08/04 it'll probably top out 4th gear, and cause an extra shift (n/m) - Scotts94z32 13:11:57 10/08/04 Re: it'll probably top out 4th gear, and cause an extra shif - ZHOUND 13:22:09 10/08/04 Any idea on cost? - Kenny 12:37:48 10/08/04 n00b - BigTDogg (MA) 12:39:36 10/08/04 ack - missed that =(. I looked on the site, I really did. (n/m) - Kenny 14:54:02 10/08/04 Kenny, while it may seem like you missed the obvious,> - SirpriZ 12:57:51 10/08/04 Yes... that's what I was getting at. - Kenny 14:54:36 10/08/04 1 year too late... >>> - Scotts94z32 12:39:17 10/08/04 At 75-80 mph on the highway, what engine speed you at? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:40:33 10/08/04 9200.... in 2nd gear... I don't know, exactly, maybe 3600RPM (n/m) - Scotts94z32 12:42:18 10/08/04 Stock tachometer. - ZHOUND 17:01:16 10/08/04 this gear is stronger then the na gear...230mm vs 200mm - Borg79(ON) 14:55:41 10/08/04 The half shafts are the weak point on the NA setup. (n/m) - Toso 15:40:44 10/08/04 are u sure that underdrive pulley will fit my car? (n/m) - red300zxtt 12:40:26 10/08/04 Nice job you two :) I need to make my appointment to get em - SeedyROM 12:45:34 10/08/04 I had a special set made with your picture on them!> - SirpriZ 13:01:07 10/08/04 I was just driving to work this morning... - ZEngineer (TT) 12:48:40 10/08/04 for nothing? Do a 1:1 roll-on with a TT w/TT rear from 3kRPM - Scotts94z32 12:52:29 10/08/04 For nothing **When Not Accelerating**, read the whole post (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 12:56:00 10/08/04 I guess you need a 6th gear then.. Unravvle your bunched - Scotts94z32 13:13:17 10/08/04 They bunch up faster than I can unravvle!! (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 13:15:05 10/08/04 This can't be why you drove so slow on the way to the hotel - Dave N 13:33:54 10/08/04 I'm not so sure about that. - Marshall 15:05:30 10/08/04 you have a better way with words than I do Marshall - ZEngineer (TT) 17:08:11 10/08/04 it certainly is turbo dependant, and also engine-design - Scotts94z32 17:11:16 10/08/04 There's a tradeoff for having a damn quick car - SeedyROM 12:57:51 10/08/04 My point: The car will accelerate better - ZEngineer (TT) 13:07:08 10/08/04 "much higher" is a matter of opinion though - SeedyROM 13:15:57 10/08/04 just giving my opinion - ZEngineer (TT) 13:18:55 10/08/04 George, just don't make him hate ALL Canadians, ok? :-) I - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 14:27:10 10/08/04 they already do... (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 14:43:53 10/08/04 Re: There's a tradeoff for having a damn quick car - BoostJunky 14:21:53 10/08/04 I love jumping in. - SactoTodd 13:02:11 10/08/04 LOL. - ZHOUND 13:04:22 10/08/04 WTF are you talking about? (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 13:09:56 10/08/04 I mean. - SactoTodd 13:20:15 10/08/04 understood. - ZEngineer (TT) 13:23:47 10/08/04 Re: understood. - SactoTodd 13:29:03 10/08/04 I bought new mittens this week. (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 13:32:39 10/08/04 do they have the long string - SactoTodd 13:46:09 10/08/04 Actually I think those mitts on a string have been banned, - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 14:21:38 10/08/04 i just spit water on my KB, todd. thanks. (n/m) - Halo Z 14:24:41 10/08/04 lol (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HAZ] 14:32:59 10/08/04 Your car doesn't warm up in 18 miles? - spicyZ 13:37:30 10/08/04 Your temp gauge might move - SactoTodd 13:44:54 10/08/04 Ok so I exagerrated slightly for effect - spicyZ 13:47:39 10/08/04 mines 2 miles. and 3 stop lights. - Halo Z 14:22:35 10/08/04 I have to agree with you. I'm driving to work less and less - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 14:24:02 10/08/04 You and Sacto should hang out sometime... :) (n/m) - Scotts94z32 13:25:45 10/08/04 the only place I wanna see Sacto hanging is from a rope. - ZEngineer (TT) 13:34:04 10/08/04 eh its not that bad - spyhunter(nj) 13:18:03 10/08/04 But the NA's run at this speed all the time - PEwithaZ 13:20:35 10/08/04 Automatic cars with high stalls. - ZHOUND 13:24:36 10/08/04 I've never had a problem with it. It's fun being on the - Guapo 13:36:37 10/08/04 keeping up with normal traffic usually makes me rev more - ZEngineer (TT) 13:48:05 10/08/04 Dude, you better get this mod cause >> - Arnel@Z32racing.com 13:38:45 10/08/04 Thanks Zo for all your help! Mark (n/m) - SirpriZ 12:55:05 10/08/04 You're welcome. (n/m) - ZHOUND 12:56:41 10/08/04 Awesome job! Always great to see new stuff for the Z. - TheTwinZ (Peru) 12:57:06 10/08/04 Nice, but tooo expensive.... - TonyD(90Z32TT) 13:00:43 10/08/04 This is a good price. - Toso 13:16:38 10/08/04 That's because it's an old Rustang as you said. - SeedyROM 13:28:35 10/08/04 Richmond Gear Ring and Pinion for Ford 8.8 - PEwithaZ 14:20:30 10/08/04 Seedy is obviously passionate about this mod - ZEngineer (TT) 14:22:36 10/08/04 True to a point. - Spongerider :) 14:29:26 10/08/04 Very much so. The decades of racing experience helps as - SeedyROM 14:35:41 10/08/04 you've totally lost your mind - ZEngineer (TT) 14:46:32 10/08/04 Chiming in REPEATEDLY everytime this is posted with - SeedyROM 15:02:10 10/08/04 1st: You're listening to too many stories - ZEngineer (TT) 15:17:40 10/08/04 I hit printscreen so I could make this post my background. (n/m) - Kenny 15:17:42 10/08/04 why? have I ever done you wrong? (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 15:25:15 10/08/04 Nothing. Lighten up princess. - Kenny 15:38:56 10/08/04 Thanks (n/m) - SeedyROM 14:30:37 10/08/04 With any new product, there is engineering time. - Toso 14:46:12 10/08/04 Re: With any new product, there is engineering time. - PEwithaZ 14:49:32 10/08/04 Exactly. - Toso 15:00:20 10/08/04 725$? You can get a NA subframe and Z1 driveshaft - BooZted 13:05:49 10/08/04 But this is a stronger rear end so there is that advantage (n/m) - PEwithaZ 13:29:26 10/08/04 yup, don't have to worry about NA 1/2shafts shearing (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 13:31:15 10/08/04 Good thing I never did an NA diff swap. I recently proved > - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 14:14:17 10/08/04 Pumps and stuff too. More money/labor for a WEAKER product - SeedyROM 13:30:29 10/08/04 Your - Spongerider :) 14:13:07 10/08/04 Your Sig... - craziestbob 14:57:26 10/08/04 I don't know how to take your comment? - Spongerider :) 15:33:19 10/08/04 He's curious of the date format: dd/mm/dd/yy? (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:41:18 10/08/04 Re: He's curious of the date format: dd/mm/dd/yy? - Spongerider :) 15:57:44 10/08/04 You need to be aware that installing these is not easy - PEwithaZ 13:26:56 10/08/04 About how many hours worth of work? (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 13:31:46 10/08/04 Not exactly sure but - SeedyROM 13:43:40 10/08/04 No, not cost, hours of work. How long? (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 13:53:43 10/08/04 I'll ask when I get my appointment - SeedyROM 13:56:59 10/08/04 Cool. Please let us know. (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 14:01:52 10/08/04 Be sure to let them know - PEwithaZ 14:52:08 10/08/04 Noted. Thanks man. - SeedyROM 15:13:34 10/08/04 Re: About how many hours worth of work? - PEwithaZ 14:07:06 10/08/04 Yeah, the website explicitly says that here - SeedyROM 13:33:54 10/08/04 Anyone interested in trying to DIY this>>>> - PEwithaZ 14:31:44 10/08/04 Awsome. - Toso 15:41:40 10/08/04 You can get the video from summit racing - PEwithaZ 16:21:14 10/08/04 Oh yeah - PEwithaZ 16:27:28 10/08/04 Nice!!! >> - Arnel@Z32racing.com 13:30:30 10/08/04 Great job Mark! - Stang Raper 13:37:26 10/08/04 permit me to chime in (again) please... - ZEngineer (TT) 13:41:28 10/08/04 ROFL - SeedyROM 13:48:13 10/08/04 WTF? - Spee 13:54:37 10/08/04 be quiet sweetheart, the men are talking now... (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 14:59:20 10/08/04 so then why are you participating? - Spee 17:21:06 10/08/04 Huh??? That's what I want! Fast fast revs!!! (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 13:59:48 10/08/04 but what if another car is revving less fast... - ZEngineer (TT) 14:04:10 10/08/04 just out of curiosity... - MyZ8u 14:14:34 10/08/04 That's a commonly asked question, I included some> - SirpriZ 16:13:06 10/08/04 canadians...sheesh (n/m) - Borg79(ON) 14:59:59 10/08/04 Guys, lets go easy on him...he IS, after all... - BigTDogg (MA) 18:09:24 10/08/04 Hey Dane, good question. It depends upon whether> - SirpriZ 16:21:45 10/08/04 fwiw, having the NA rear on my car makes it easy for me to - Guapo 16:28:08 10/08/04 Thanks for the road racing input, it's an area lacking> - SirpriZ 21:51:32 10/08/04 i do recall Scott running out of gear with his NA diff at - Stang Raper 17:19:58 10/08/04 Re: i do recall Scott running out of gear with his NA diff a - Guapo 17:26:25 10/08/04 For those concerned about loss of traction>>>> - SeedyROM 13:40:53 10/08/04 consider the source of the statement - Guapo 13:44:01 10/08/04 find one single post where I mention spinning my tires - ZEngineer (TT) 13:50:41 10/08/04 you're not worth the trouble (n/m) - Guapo 13:54:08 10/08/04 You said first and second gear were utterly useless - SeedyROM 13:55:31 10/08/04 they're not useless because you're spinning tires...*sigh* - ZEngineer (TT) 14:01:48 10/08/04 I'm sorry but that's just comedy - SeedyROM 14:08:56 10/08/04 you're saying I'm funny? Funny How? - ZEngineer (TT) 14:18:52 10/08/04 I'm sorry I took it this far. I give up with you man. - SeedyROM 15:05:20 10/08/04 sorry I stepped on your friend's toes - ZEngineer (TT) 15:22:45 10/08/04 Enough! - Toso 15:34:27 10/08/04 this is the second time we argue over this... - ZEngineer (TT) 13:46:22 10/08/04 You DID say spin. That post was removed by someone. - SeedyROM 13:50:13 10/08/04 One last attempt to make the little light in your head - ZEngineer (TT) 13:56:44 10/08/04 You're making the assumption that the stock rear end car... - Toso 14:04:15 10/08/04 Exactly. Acceleration is acceleration. (n/m) - SeedyROM 14:06:20 10/08/04 But I never loose boost. Cause I'm AUTO boy! :-) (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 14:04:32 10/08/04 Yeah, we have it even better but the manuals still will rock (n/m) - SeedyROM 14:05:45 10/08/04 Now think of this mod on 2 auto cars! (n/m) - Arnel@Z32racing.com 14:06:00 10/08/04 So you're saying a geared car is slower? Are you nuts? - SeedyROM 14:04:40 10/08/04 good, finally we're all making sense here... - ZEngineer (TT) 14:10:20 10/08/04 It always made sense George - SeedyROM 14:27:48 10/08/04 ok, but for the record: - ZEngineer (TT) 14:39:13 10/08/04 No I wont because I'll have listened to my own post - SeedyROM 14:52:26 10/08/04 You're suggesting lowering boost to compensate for a - ZEngineer (TT) 15:04:55 10/08/04 The NAs seem to do fine with the higher RPM - SeedyROM 15:07:25 10/08/04 George, if you aren't accelerating, you don't need ANY mods. - Kenny 15:56:47 10/08/04 Uhh - Georgy boy, Seedy's car has an AUTO tranny. - Dave N 15:19:45 10/08/04 This might help? - Spongerider :) 14:18:00 10/08/04 George, I sense the hate in your post:)) (n/m) - AzHeat 14:38:57 10/08/04 LOL! How long were you waiting to serve me with that? (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 14:47:44 10/08/04 Just logged in, Looked like the right time. "Hate" is - AzHeat 14:49:32 10/08/04 Hi stoopit. - nixit 16:27:21 10/08/04 you need to drive my car again on the track (n/m) - Guapo 16:30:37 10/08/04 Well, you do only have 245s on the back, and they were - BigTDogg (MA) 18:49:36 10/08/04 Mclaren F1 uses a 2.37 gear ratio - MyZ8u 14:22:44 10/08/04 Whats your point? (n/m) - Toso 14:51:52 10/08/04 i ate an apple at lunch. (n/m) - Borg79(ON) 14:56:11 10/08/04 Can I correct you... - my_humble_300zx 15:27:17 10/08/04 incorrect. McLaren F1 is not an F1 spec race car. - nixit 16:28:13 10/08/04 Ah, that Mclaren F1 car... not the Formula 1 car. - my_humble_300zx 17:08:09 10/08/04 but whats the final drive of the transmission? - nixit 16:29:27 10/08/04 Just the other day, I was wondering what the longest - Moxie 15:59:20 10/08/04 I've seen bigger. (n/m) - Snoguitar 16:10:56 10/08/04 I bet you say that to all the boys. (n/m) - Kenny 16:24:53 10/08/04 Nah, that's what they say to me :-( (n/m) - Snoguitar 16:30:12 10/08/04 OMG Lol (n/m) - govaardz(Aruba) 21:40:10 10/08/04 Product of the year . - govaardz(Aruba) 22:08:45 10/08/04
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