their over-whored out song on the radio. you know thats sad whne the group themselves gets tired of their own stuff.
when i was into hardcore/punk/whatever, id usually stop listening to them once i heard a song on the radio. id buy the newest album just in case, but would 99% of the time be very disappointed and either give the cd away or throw it in "shitty cd shoebox"
new music pretty much sucks, its all marketing. once again, im with marshall