Subject	If it were me I would call Z1, and keep this between you and
Posted by	aZiator on August 30, 2004 at 6:00 PM
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In Reply To	Engine is toasted and I'm at fault?!? ver long posted by red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* on August 30, 2004 at 05:34 PM
Message	them. No need to bring this onto the forum. Lots of things can go wrong with an install, trust me i know. I am not saying that you or Z1 are at fault. I am just saying talk to Russell and figure out what happened and what you and Z1 are going to do to rectify the problem. Before I had Z1 build my engine I sat down with Russell and spoke about this very topic. I was concerned about a warranty and how they would be able to tell if an engine problem was my fault or their fault. He showed me a few examples of engines that had problems with them that were due to the owner, overheating and low oil were the 2 I think. It was pretty evident that the failure was caused by lack of proper care. Did you check your radiator fluid to see how much is in there? I feel for you, I was recently in a similiar situation and I ended up being at fault. Fortunatley the problem was resolved with both parties happy (although a little frustrated at times). Try to be patient and work with them. If you still feel like you are getting screwed over then bring it here. I'M A HOOKER My other ride is a CH-47D "Chinook" helicopter Visit the TwinTurbo.NET Store
Follow Ups	Engine is toasted and I'm at fault?!? ver long - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 17:34:38 08/30/04 Yikes, Rob.. that sucks big time. Hopefully you can 'work - Scotts94z32 17:42:28 08/30/04 heh well you wouldn't be the first to have a problem with Z1 (n/m) - spyhunter(nj) 17:44:01 08/30/04 And you wouldn't be the first to make a claim without any - aZiator 17:52:57 08/30/04 sorry, i've just seen a lot of negative posts regarding Z1 - spyhunter(nj) 18:37:44 08/30/04 Well, I am sorry if I was rude then. didn't mean to jump - aZiator 19:13:57 08/30/04 no reasoning to back it up??? - Spee 18:52:32 08/30/04 " (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 18:53:46 08/30/04 I will agree that Z1 had its share of problems with builds - aZiator 19:11:07 08/30/04 "' - ni[X]it 19:26:09 08/30/04 yup, but everyone will enjoy the bandwagon.. (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:39:48 08/30/04 agreed. (n/m) - Spee 22:02:29 08/30/04 Umm...? - ENVYMYZ 00:21:33 08/31/04 Did I make that too hard for you too understand? - Spee 17:23:32 08/31/04 HI! - ENVYMYZ 23:37:13 08/31/04 You're not helping your case with them. Really, I thought - Moxie 17:45:07 08/30/04 the guy's depressed and running out of ideas... - ZEngineer (TT) 17:48:35 08/30/04 I am not slamming him, I feel for the guy - Moxie 17:55:14 08/30/04 Re: I am not slamming him, I feel for the guy - Grateful Zed 18:04:19 08/30/04 :/ - zboost 17:51:13 08/30/04 z1 has never had a motor fail. it's all on you.... (n/m) - Halo Z 17:53:24 08/30/04 Re: z1 has never had a motor fail. it's all on you.... - silver z 18:00:11 08/30/04 Good point, I have heard of all sorts of parts failing after - aZiator 18:03:59 08/30/04 i know you are pro Z1 chris. - Halo Z 18:09:33 08/30/04 I hear you, Just trying to mitigate a little - aZiator 18:22:46 08/30/04 If it were me I would call Z1, and keep this between you and - aZiator 18:00:50 08/30/04 BIG second. (n/m) - spotz 18:21:24 08/30/04 Allright this is ludicrous. - Russell@Z1 18:04:51 08/30/04 Wait, he installed the motor? - SeedyROM 18:28:15 08/30/04 Z1 did not install the motor. - Russell@Z1 18:44:04 08/30/04 Yeah, just went through the old posts - SeedyROM 18:49:54 08/30/04 wish them luck BOO! I just lost $7500 & now I have no motor (n/m) - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:34:54 08/30/04 I wished you both luck - SeedyROM 19:44:21 08/30/04 Dude, there is 2 sides to every story (n/m) - kryptonite729 19:54:42 08/30/04 posting this here is not a bad thing... - 1hotzx 18:33:12 08/30/04 You have a point - SeedyROM 18:42:26 08/30/04 exactly correct (n/m) - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:18:32 08/30/04 "some are flaming, yes...they are turds with legs" haha - EricTTZ 19:35:38 08/30/04 So you wouldn't call the vendor before posting? - dpjax 19:50:34 08/30/04 Well I decided to go ahead and get the pics - Russell@Z1 18:42:03 08/30/04 Russel I will call you tomorrow around 4pm... - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:32:35 08/30/04 Russel can you explain the reason for the 3 turbo failure?? (n/m) - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:04:27 08/30/04 Who installed the turbos?? Who broke in the turbos? (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:10:21 08/30/04 turbos do not need to be broken in. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 19:11:49 08/30/04 How about oil at startup? Not needed either?? (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:18:17 08/30/04 delete your old post b/c i'm right? - Chris(NJ) 19:19:56 08/30/04 No, Just keep telling myself that its not worth my time - speedr300z (ATL) 19:34:45 08/30/04 wonderful response. typical z1 fashion. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 19:43:13 08/30/04 oh, and prove me wrong. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:05:06 08/30/04 If you want to install a turbo and NOT ensure it is primed - speedr300z (ATL) 20:33:44 08/30/04 i seriously doubt that is what you meant by break in (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:47:18 08/30/04 sorry to step in here, but i think it's important, .>>>> - ni[X]it 21:35:38 08/30/04 and FWIW, ..>>> - ni[X]it 21:56:50 08/30/04 ok, thanks... I am not aware of any of the new Z1 turbos - speedr300z (ATL) 22:47:05 08/30/04 hi Bob! - ni[X]it 07:51:15 08/31/04 Hi Nixit, I'll agree with you on most of that... - speedr300z (ATL) 08:31:34 08/31/04 Believe me, much better than the one I originally typed.. - speedr300z (ATL) 20:45:22 08/30/04 when you ask a dumb question its a free for all. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:49:48 08/30/04 So what was the dumb question? Him asking Russell why 3 of - speedr300z (ATL) 20:56:50 08/30/04 your question was the dumb one. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 08:06:40 08/31/04 once again, a waste... (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 09:19:38 08/31/04 I installed the turbo with all new lines and gaskets (n/m) - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:17:25 08/30/04 Wow, that sucks!...hope that you and Z1 find a way to work - TheTwinZ (Peru) 18:13:21 08/30/04 "JWT aren't the most reliable turbo's"...good one. - SeedyROM 18:25:42 08/30/04 He's just venting so take it easy. You have vented in the - Spongerider :) 18:40:02 08/30/04 True, true - SeedyROM 18:46:25 08/30/04 Really big 2nd.. (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:21:14 08/30/04 You are going to force them to stop dealing with you... - dpjax 18:43:17 08/30/04 Re: You are going to force them to stop dealing with you... - Magnum 18:53:14 08/30/04 I wish you the best of luck w/ the motor/car, other - Chris(NJ) 18:45:47 08/30/04 can't say that I'm surprised at all. - Spee 18:50:17 08/30/04 Consistant? Consistant with selling engines to people - aZiator 19:03:03 08/30/04 You need a newer Sig. - Spongerider :) 19:07:13 08/30/04 hehe...soon enough, buddy. - Spee 21:58:52 08/30/04 Spee...if you're serious, you're an idiot - dpjax 19:56:02 08/30/04 hi - ni[X]it 19:01:24 08/30/04 Z1 assambled the water pump not me Thanks Nixit - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:11:24 08/30/04 well,either way, you should have kept all this off the forum - ni[X]it 19:25:18 08/30/04 ding! ding! ding! (n/m) - dpjax 19:53:52 08/30/04 even though Nixit can be a complete asshole... - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 19:31:10 08/30/04 w00t w00t Jason is agreeing with Nixit. Is the world ending? (n/m) - kryptonite729 19:47:10 08/30/04 Re: even though Nixit can be a complete asshole... - ni[X]it 21:46:51 08/30/04 agreed. Z1 doesn't appear to be at fault to me (n/m) - aliaZ (broken in) 08:02:57 08/31/04 This post is more that I'm looking for advice - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:01:29 08/30/04 any aftermarket temp gauges? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 19:02:54 08/30/04 Yes told Z1 that it was normal - red zya in ct *sport'n 600's* 19:09:01 08/30/04
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