Subject	Re: Well Ash, if we are on the subject, lets chat>>>
Posted by	steelz on June 21, 2004 at 6:40 PM
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In Reply To	Well Ash, if we are on the subject, lets chat>>> posted by kryptonite729 on June 21, 2004 at 03:04 PM
Message	I feel for man. I know what you've been through. I went through the exact same thing, but I've got a bit of a different take on it. I built a J-spec motor with some T-28 turbos and a whole list of mods. I had the car half together(and, admittedly a little backwards) when I ran out of time. I sent it to Z1 to finish the project and dyno tune it. I was an VERY UGLY project, but one that Z1 took on and saw to completion. During the dyno the car blew a ring and shot the oil stick half way across the bay. But how can I blame Z1 or Ash for that? I gave them a J-spec motor that I THOUGHT was good, but who really knows? I was upset, pissed, frustrated; but mostly with myself because I took the risk of pushing the limits, and lost. Ash did for me exactly what I asked him to do. I knew there was a risk. If there wasn't a risk, then Nissan would have made all the Zs with 600 HP. I'm not a mechanic, or a Z expert, but I am a mechanical engineer, and I'll tell you that every time Ash explains something to me about my car, it makes good sense. This guy knows what he's doing, and he's very methodical about his work. I'll also tell you that Z1 stands behind their work, and here's the proof : After this incident I decided to have them build me a high performance Z motor with Z1 stage 2 turbos, and ALL the works - including a nitrous spool up kit. The motor lost a bit of compression on one of cylinders after the nitrous tuning, and was not running smooth. It wasn't bad, but it didn't seem quite right either. Since they built the motor, they took it out and broke it down to repair it. It ended up being a burnt tip on an exhaust valve. After this the car had a slight intermittent smoking problem. The car still ran great, but Ash wasn't satisfied. He pulled the motor again and took apart the turbos to find out what was wrong. They didn't see any positive signs of failure, but put new turbos in anyway - just to make sure. The car put down incredible numbers and runs like a bat out of hell. They stood behind there work, even when it was very hard to do. Through this process I spent a lot of time with these guys. They are very trust worthy, and I'd take my car back to them any time. That's just my 2 cents.
Follow Ups	DYNO Notes: Dee's Sport600, Inconel Manifolds, H2O Injection - Ash's Z (In Progress) 12:29:50 06/21/04 Couldnt this just be added to Dee's initial post? - kryptonite729 12:59:58 06/21/04 Dunno.. Maybe we can start a poll? - Ash's Z (In Progress) 13:03:29 06/21/04 You didn't blow his rings and turbos like mine did ya? (n/m) - kryptonite729 13:12:08 06/21/04 Not on an SGP built motor ;-)...39 runs...pfftt...no problem (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 13:14:15 06/21/04 SGP motor, Z1 touching it? YIKES! ;-) - kryptonite729 13:20:27 06/21/04 Be nice =). (n/m) - Kenny 13:34:18 06/21/04 and then I drove it 800 miles home the next day ! (n/m) - Slowninja(Sport600 Inconel Z) 14:01:18 06/21/04 No, yours throws a rod bearing after 5 dyno pulls. (n/m) - AzHeat 16:46:03 06/21/04 You sir are a freaking Tard----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:48:18 06/21/04 Ha ha, I can dish it back (n/m) - AzHeat 18:13:07 06/21/04 so if their motor didnt throw a bearing after 5 pulls, why - Chris(NJ) 18:59:22 06/21/04 Brian's SGP built motor did last year. He has since - AzHeat 20:06:47 06/21/04 I know him well. That motor is one out of how many though? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:39:05 06/21/04 Know who Brian? I don't understand your question. I believe - AzHeat 20:45:03 06/21/04 Azheat is a Tard and doesn't understand your question---> - Kyle(Houston) 20:58:33 06/21/04 What's with the name calling? You can't handle that - AzHeat 22:05:33 06/21/04 yes, i know bryan well, was my point earlier. And i meant - Chris(NJ) 06:34:24 06/22/04 I know what you are saying. Bryan personally called - AzHeat 18:32:58 06/22/04 I have never once said we have a spotless record-----> - Kyle(Houston) 07:32:22 06/22/04 You rub me the wrong way too with your reply to a post - AzHeat 18:28:18 06/22/04 It has everything to do with me(SGP)-----> - Kyle(Houston) 21:29:11 06/22/04 I dont want to be argumentative, but when tuning any car, - Ash's Z (In Progress) 12:50:20 06/23/04 Wow, why are you dragging my name through the dirt here? - Ash's Z (In Progress) 14:29:40 06/21/04 Well Ash, if we are on the subject, lets chat>>> - kryptonite729 15:04:12 06/21/04 I wonder how interesting it is to the others that you are - Ash's Z (In Progress) 15:23:05 06/21/04 Here is why i'm just now saying something - kryptonite729 15:52:06 06/21/04 You are pathetic, grow up. No engine is bullet proof - AzHeat 16:22:14 06/21/04 Probably a lot less then you take on a daily basis......... - Kyle(Houston) 16:27:35 06/21/04 Funny Kyle :) (n/m) - AzHeat 16:42:02 06/21/04 lmao (n/m) - Spee 17:38:13 06/21/04 Your $.02 is out of place but thanks.. - kryptonite729 23:50:34 06/21/04 Re: Well Ash, if we are on the subject, lets chat>>> - steelz 18:40:57 06/21/04 Jeff, you own a red stage 2 car? Shoot me an email>>> - kryptonite729 23:57:42 06/21/04 LOL, I'm not going to say anything to that - (n/m) - Ash's Z (In Progress) 09:57:59 06/22/04 Read the above post about Z1 Motorsports and Ash (n/m) - steelz 18:43:22 06/21/04 Read the above post about Z1 Motorsports and Ash (n/m) - steelz 21:08:49 06/21/04 Wow, Z1 never calls me on my cell phone to chat - aZiator 09:55:45 06/22/04 Sounds like he asked for what he got...(along with the risk) (n/m) - dpjax 15:08:11 06/21/04 And the drama ensues. (n/m) - Rob.M (Down Shift Magazine) 07:52:12 06/22/04
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