Subject	Laws and courts are very finicky on what is justifiable
Posted by	AzHeat on May 28, 2004 at 3:26 PM
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In Reply To	I know about the back posted by bassplayr on May 28, 2004 at 03:18 PM
Message	and what is not for civilians. The laws are stacked against the victim in these types of situations. Another aspect of the self defense laws is you have to have avenue for escape and opportunity to take that escape to avoid confrontation before using deadly force.
Follow Ups	Almost got carjacked today... - dragknt 00:32:39 05/28/04 Wow, you got lucky man. Be careful in that 'hood! - AbnormallyAspirated 00:36:37 05/28/04 wooh.. glad you're ok man.. definitely find a new route (n/m) - SonicZ 00:41:41 05/28/04 FL allows you to carry a weapon in your vehicle I believe. - Kenny 00:45:53 05/28/04 Also, you did a kickass job of paying attention. - Kenny 00:47:44 05/28/04 2nd. (n/m) - Kez43 01:33:31 05/28/04 well, gun 1st... (n/m) - dpjax 06:32:44 05/28/04 yeah Jesus! and get a gun too! I would have shot the - z rider (wingless) 13:58:00 05/28/04 LOLING@ "Then piss on him." (n/m) - la300zxtt (TJ) 00:49:38 05/28/04 going soft I see :) - SonicZ 00:50:28 05/28/04 No it's not. If you have a concealed carry permit, the gun - mpbond(STL) 01:00:49 05/28/04 We have conceal and carry in OH now, but they are stupid - excessive101 03:31:55 05/28/04 finally taft did something good! (n/m) - NA300zx (OH) 09:02:32 05/28/04 In MS your car is an extension of your home, so its legal - Zachs300ZX 14:03:06 05/28/04 Re: FL allows you to carry a weapon in your vehicle I believe. - Greatfull Zed 02:30:38 05/28/04 thats a horrible idea - Z_Theory 04:58:49 05/28/04 tough argument against gun-nuts although I agree with you (n/m) - Ben_96_Slicktop (VA) 07:38:59 05/28/04 Actually, his claim sits true with us gun nuts - bassplayr 13:45:23 05/28/04 It is a hard call. Like Kenny said...."practice" The scum - slowjohn 08:26:12 05/28/04 True - bassplayr 13:47:27 05/28/04 don't know about "wild west" - lojaqer 08:59:05 05/28/04 I'd rather just give him the wallet or car like he wants - bassplayr 13:49:05 05/28/04 not worth dying for your car??? - NA300zx (OH) 09:03:45 05/28/04 Re: not worth dying for your car??? - dragknt 11:20:24 05/28/04 2nd - bassplayr 13:43:20 05/28/04 Car jackers often kill the victims right there. - Kenny 14:16:11 05/28/04 And where is the research to support this claim? (n/m) - bassplayr 15:27:40 05/28/04 *sigh* - Kenny 15:55:16 05/28/04 In your case Kenny you would already be shot dead - AzHeat 16:48:18 05/28/04 Still doesn't show statistical support - bassplayr 22:38:10 05/28/04 FL has a 2-step law I believe... - dpjax 06:34:21 05/28/04 In Arizona , if you don't have a CCW permit the - AzHeat 10:25:26 05/28/04 That was kind of funny, taken out of context... - John P. 10:27:26 05/28/04 I'm pretty sure it's three steps. - dragknt 11:15:51 05/28/04 Ok... - Kenny 14:14:39 05/28/04 Trying to look intelligient by posting Florida law - AzHeat 16:46:32 05/28/04 if you would try to comprehend his post - kingt151 21:04:22 05/28/04 Yeah getting car jacked sucks be careful - la300zxtt (TJ) 00:50:30 05/28/04 Read more carefully. He was driving through a bad 'hood. (n/m) - Kenny 00:53:18 05/28/04 It's not the job... - dragknt 11:13:14 05/28/04 shoulda slammed it into reverse and cut the wheel - hey GotBo0st 00:55:23 05/28/04 2nd. - Kenny 00:56:45 05/28/04 Chances are that supposed clip was a cigarette - AzHeat 05:02:31 05/28/04 It was a joke AssHat. - Kenny 10:03:55 05/28/04 Can you see a loaded clip from 30feet away? I belong - AzHeat 10:16:43 05/28/04 Re: Can you see a loaded clip from 30feet away? I belong - dragknt 11:08:54 05/28/04 So, why is everyone calling it a "clip" - bassplayr 13:52:16 05/28/04 You are correct sir, linky - AzHeat 14:01:39 05/28/04 Just a pet peeve of mine :) (n/m) - bassplayr 15:18:51 05/28/04 What are you talking about? - Kenny 11:13:17 05/28/04 I know he wasn't 30 feet away. I was just saying from - AzHeat 13:13:28 05/28/04 That's right you have no idea because you don't have - AzHeat 10:27:47 05/28/04 It was not presented as a joke - Technomancer 10:41:41 05/28/04 LOL @ AssHat....... - BaLL-Z 11:13:16 05/28/04 Gee, I don't know Kenny, why don't you tell me - AzHeat 13:43:04 05/28/04 So you of all people should know what a clip looks like. - Kenny 14:09:27 05/28/04 You act like you were actually there. Maybe you were the - AzHeat 16:44:09 05/28/04 Welcome to Florida. - Kenny 14:05:41 05/28/04 Did you delete my response? I responded to this and - AzHeat 16:29:44 05/28/04 Just Like Vice city =) (n/m) - Sh0wty (Miami) 06:59:04 05/28/04 and as you are directly on top of the ankles lock up - slowjohn 08:33:07 05/28/04 you all are some violent bastards... ;) (n/m) - Synd 01:00:47 05/28/04 Man, I'm always checking my mirrors and looking for "outs" - SeedyROM 01:47:07 05/28/04 any pick ups chase you lately? :-) - TARGETZ 05:41:31 05/28/04 No, but I have had WAY too many trucks/SUVs trying to race - SeedyROM 11:30:51 05/28/04 ROFL (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:33:59 05/28/04 You are lucky you ran into a stupid would-be car jacker - AzHeat 04:34:01 05/28/04 you never hear stories like this where I live *shrug* (n/m) - ZEngineer (TT) 08:11:06 05/28/04 Too cold for the blue steel. (n/m) - slowjohn 08:27:47 05/28/04 They jack fools with hockey sticks in that area... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 13:35:42 05/28/04 Step 1: Look for work elsewhere... (n/m) - MatD 08:19:37 05/28/04 Better paranoid than dead..... (n/m) - Boosted_One (SoCal) 09:27:05 05/28/04 hahah, i used to do that all the time - dogpile 09:27:48 05/28/04 i was kidding, btw (n/m) - dogpile 09:31:22 05/28/04 Re: i was kidding, btw - dragknt 11:11:49 05/28/04 It disturbing how many people have no clue as to - Ben_96_Slicktop (VA) 10:47:33 05/28/04 2nd. It is cheaper to take a self defense class and - AzHeat 13:17:00 05/28/04 Yup - bassplayr 13:56:45 05/28/04 I agree. BTW, if you shoot an intruder in the back and - AzHeat 14:05:11 05/28/04 Yep, if you shoot anyone in the back, you are screwed - Chip(GinnMotorSports) 14:18:18 05/28/04 Not true for police officers in certain situations in FL. - Kenny 14:26:07 05/28/04 Interesting, but I was referring to civilians. - Chip(GinnMotorSports) 14:30:47 05/28/04 LMAO. I'll keep that in mind if someone ever breaks in. (n/m) - Kenny 14:32:44 05/28/04 We just had former police officer charged with - AzHeat 14:43:52 05/28/04 Here is link to police shooting in Arizona I was talking - AzHeat 14:52:02 05/28/04 I know about the back - bassplayr 15:18:25 05/28/04 Laws and courts are very finicky on what is justifiable - AzHeat 15:26:26 05/28/04 Dead men tell no tales :) (n/m) - bassplayr 15:29:14 05/28/04 Yup, that's why I keep a loaded Glock 9mm with hollow - AzHeat 15:43:00 05/28/04 Glock Model 22 right here - bassplayr 22:40:32 05/28/04 Also, never use full metal jacket (FMJ) bullets cause - AzHeat 15:58:27 05/28/04 BTW. just a few things to add - bassplayr 15:27:04 05/28/04
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