couldn't get the Labree setup. I got an exceptional price for mt set-up. I cannot justify paying a grand for an exhaust system period; now maybe if I was getting dp's,tp's and a cat-back maybe but a Big maybe. I just couldn't resist using that one-liner thats all; and yes you are right it is very subjective. I wish I was going to Zcon. Maybe next time there could be a demything day where certain myths or ideas could be eliminated such as Whose exhaust flows more whose brakes stop better which ecu is better and so on. But bottom line the quality and performance of my exhaust is excellent would i buy it again for retail price doubtful.