Subject	You don't HAVE to buy it. You're more than welcome to:
Posted by	BigTDogg (MA) on April 22, 2004 at 1:53 PM
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In Reply To	2nd, $80 is too much for some washers and bolts. sorry. (n/m) posted by ScubaSteve on April 22, 2004 at 12:16 PM
Message	A) DIY with your own bolts and washers and take your chances. Cost: $40 (that's a guess) B) Spend waaaay too much money on adjustable upper arms to fix the camber issue. Cost: $500 C) Buy the 300° kit and know that for the extra $40 you have product which was designed by a company who has liability if you kill your self while using it, has been tested and used by literally hundreds of Z owners and know that you took the smartest of the three paths. Adding to a flame war is as useless as tits on a bull, but I had to share my POV. "...Downpipes own. They own everything...anything...all there ever was and will be...they should be stock on all cars. Screw the environment, emissions, noise! I love them...I shall name my first-born after them with glee..." - SeedyRom 05:13:20 10/03/02 "Ricers are idiots" - RezidentEvil "i love the cock" - genic 22:20:47 09/25/03 "a hair brush does make a nice didlo, but it fixes your hair even better" - Nixit 6/2/2003 "but like any child, you can always get another " - Zeus 2/11/2004
Follow Ups	lowering .08 inches - MeterMan 08:16:13 04/22/04 get a camber kit and they'll have normal wear. (n/m) - Hiratsuka0689 (NJ) 08:23:04 04/22/04 You'll want to install a camber kit as well. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:26:28 04/22/04 That's a pretty small drop (n/m) - U ZCREAM 08:42:48 04/22/04 LOL, I was just sitting back to see how long it would take - BigTDogg (MA) 08:51:34 04/22/04 nice try ..... you didnt even notice (n/m) - JDMz32smity 08:54:05 04/22/04 I noticed me... - BigTDogg (MA) 10:33:30 04/22/04 hahahaha now that was funny - JDMz32smity 10:42:23 04/22/04 .08???, Eibach is .8, I think you are getting your - kandy2dr 08:56:16 04/22/04 $80 front & rear? (n/m) - 92naz32 09:04:36 04/22/04 Rear is adjustable from the factory (n/m) - TomzxTT 09:09:09 04/22/04 This still applies with the Eibach springs? (n/m) - 92naz32 09:12:37 04/22/04 Yes, rear adjustment is good for Eibachs if shocks are good. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 09:25:38 04/22/04 Replacing all with Eibach,KYB & S.T. is camber off that... - 92naz32 09:29:46 04/22/04 REar adjustment should be enough. Front will need a kit. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 09:47:02 04/22/04 Just ckd out 300* web site, seems like an easy install... - 92naz32 09:16:02 04/22/04 Other than being overpriced, no... (n/m) - code3smith 09:33:04 04/22/04 2nd, $80 is too much for some washers and bolts. sorry. (n/m) - ScubaSteve 12:16:47 04/22/04 I guess R&D is free then? - fourZero 12:25:30 04/22/04 You don't even need to use that metal block you can just use - ScubaSteve 12:32:54 04/22/04 there isn't sufficient bolt length on the stock bolts - fourZero 12:35:36 04/22/04 Exactly. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 13:15:44 04/22/04 So buy longer bolts to supplement the washers... - code3smith 13:27:58 04/22/04 everyone has 20/20 hindsight - fourZero 13:32:20 04/22/04 Once again, not what I design for a living... (n/m) - code3smith 13:56:57 04/22/04 he wasnt criticizing anything except the price. what makes - ScubaSteve 14:07:41 04/22/04 Why not buy a product thats been specifically developed - nixit 13:35:46 04/22/04 For as "simple" as it is, it's VERY functional, easy to - YugoBernie (NoVA) 13:36:31 04/22/04 You see, we can agree - code3smith 13:52:51 04/22/04 I tried to track down similar bolts for a project I was - YugoBernie (NoVA) 13:58:10 04/22/04 The fact it supports Damon and 300° isn't all bad either, gi - ScubaSteve 14:11:30 04/22/04 Clearly you don't get it. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 14:28:27 04/22/04 Sounds like you're getting pissed off at me or something - ScubaSteve 14:44:43 04/22/04 It didn't used to be that way :/ (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 15:44:35 04/22/04 Re: Sounds like you're getting pissed off at me or something - ni[X]it 17:49:37 04/22/04 I never said use stock bolts. I bought bolts from a local - ScubaSteve 13:59:45 04/22/04 We arent talking about a space shuttle part here lol - code3smith 12:52:28 04/22/04 You don't HAVE to buy it. You're more than welcome to: - BigTDogg (MA) 13:53:11 04/22/04 2nd. I took option A. I was just stating my opinion that $80 - ScubaSteve 14:02:10 04/22/04 I just mean everyone bickering aimlessly. Nothing against - BigTDogg (MA) 14:20:15 04/22/04 Everything was done for a purpose. - nixit 13:21:56 04/22/04 Actually - code3smith 13:42:27 04/22/04 Then why do you post? - nixit 13:47:41 04/22/04 Because I am involved in R&D - code3smith 13:54:34 04/22/04 LOL- add 3 gallons of gas and you should drop 0.08" (n/m) - John P. 09:50:02 04/22/04 I have seen several people not need the camber kit, but - Unluky (MO) 09:12:25 04/22/04 When installing Eibachs, even if you end up "in spec" - YugoBernie (NoVA) 10:42:44 04/22/04 for the rear, I recommend the adjustable arms. - teahead 09:42:34 04/22/04 Thnx. (n/m) - 92naz32 09:46:17 04/22/04 I just removed adjustable arms and installed the 300* kit - fourZero 10:09:19 04/22/04 Thats what I needed to know, thnx. I didn't want to... - 92naz32 10:28:36 04/22/04 Maybe, but like I said, I still got tire wear on the rear... - teahead 12:31:26 04/22/04 the 300 degree kit can be adjusted with shims - fourZero 12:34:15 04/22/04 why do you need adjustable arms for road course/auto x? - ScubaSteve 14:50:33 04/22/04 how else would you adjust camber? - nixit 15:38:06 04/22/04
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