Subject	Well, Toyota had less work to do.
Posted by	BigTDogg (MA) on April 06, 2004 at 3:45 PM
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In Reply To	No need to make excuses for them. :) posted by ZBlacktt on April 06, 2004 at 03:25 PM
Message	All they had to do was wait for Nissan to come out with their supercar first, then they copied it and one-uped a few things. OEM suppliers also have to deal with things like noise, feel and ride quality. Noise being the only one which actually affects the brakes, but you get my point. If you don't, here it is again. I have stainless lines, axxis pads and brembo blanks, and my car stops to my satisfaction. I bet if I disabled the ABS temporarily, I could lock up all fours. Also, you can't fit much bigger brakes under the stock wheels. The calipers themselves are great units. Not making excuses, just giving the facts. "...Downpipes own. They own everything...anything...all there ever was and will be...they should be stock on all cars. Screw the environment, emissions, noise! I love them...I shall name my first-born after them with glee..." - SeedyRom 05:13:20 10/03/02 "Ricers are idiots" - RezidentEvil "i love the cock" - genic 22:20:47 09/25/03 "a hair brush does make a nice didlo, but it fixes your hair even better" - Nixit 6/2/2003 "but like any child, you can always get another " - Zeus 2/11/2004
Follow Ups	driving the z for the first time again, i realized just how - Pure-Evil 12:14:07 04/06/04 thats great, go firgure (n/m) - Zski 12:18:03 04/06/04 what are you talking about? My brakes are just fine... (n/m) - ZEngineer 12:18:35 04/06/04 Yeah, but your car isn't even moving... - BigTDogg (MA) 12:27:07 04/06/04 you might be smoking crack.... - Red ZX (SoCal) 12:22:46 04/06/04 He probably meant brake feel, free play, and pedal travel. - FantasyZ 13:00:57 04/06/04 Bah who needs 'em when you can have lam(e)bo doors. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:29:08 04/06/04 Mine used to be bad before - NytWolf 12:32:07 04/06/04 "May of 1991 and on" sounds like an inclusive statement. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:43:39 04/06/04 It's more of a double-inclusive - NytWolf 12:51:43 04/06/04 Either way I wouldn't be buying Nissan pads. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:55:08 04/06/04 Why not? It works good enough for what I use them for (n/m) - NytWolf 12:57:26 04/06/04 Because for less $ you can get a better performing pad. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 14:29:25 04/06/04 have you done any maintenance to your brakes? - nixit 12:38:56 04/06/04 yes. put new carbon fibre racing pads on 8000 miles ago - Pure-Evil 13:34:50 04/06/04 "racing" pads typically need to be heated up - Guapo 13:38:11 04/06/04 "Carbon Fibre Racing Pads" >>> ROFLMMFAO!!!! - nixit 13:53:51 04/06/04 sometimes you amaze me nick - Z U N L 14:45:57 04/06/04 Re: "Carbon Fibre Racing Pads" >>> ROFLMMFAO!!!! - lazersos 00:49:46 04/07/04 IMO, you haven't driven enough other cars if you think the - zxjpmzx 12:49:37 04/06/04 my brakes suck too - need-a_TT 12:57:14 04/06/04 so your maintenance sucks. not the brakes. (n/m) - nixit 17:57:44 04/06/04 Dude, you're complaining about STOCK 4 pot brakes? - ENVYMYZ 13:02:01 04/06/04 4 "piston" brakes. (n/m) - nixit 17:58:00 04/06/04 Yea, I think the bean counters had a big say on what - AzHeat 13:25:33 04/06/04 My brakes are just fine. (n/m) - Kenny 14:39:05 04/06/04 until you do high speed stop and get brake fade - AzHeat 15:12:56 04/06/04 Never happened to me. Stop from triple digits occasionally. - Kenny 17:27:52 04/06/04 You'll get 2 fade free 100mph to 0mph stops on stock setup. - nixit 17:57:22 04/06/04 Nissan engineered the Z in its STOCK FORM ONLY - BigTDogg (MA) 15:15:48 04/06/04 No need to make excuses for them. :) - ZBlacktt 15:25:29 04/06/04 Well, Toyota had less work to do. - BigTDogg (MA) 15:45:17 04/06/04 Correct, I did the same steps - ZBlacktt 18:31:17 04/06/04 wtf? - Spee 17:25:51 04/06/04 No, it's called inadequate stopping power (n/m) - ZBlacktt 18:18:11 04/06/04 The brakes are fine for more then 90%... - SR Productions ($65 stage 3) 21:19:47 04/06/04 you said "safety failure issue." - Spee 00:03:58 04/07/04 I said should have been, get right please. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 02:09:13 04/07/04 that doesn't change anything. - Spee 13:32:34 04/07/04 My brakes have never failed. None of my friends... - Kenny 17:31:32 04/06/04 See my reply to your leader above please. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 18:33:45 04/06/04 Who is my leader? My brakes have never failed. - Kenny 00:23:54 04/07/04 please bro. it just takes maintenance. that's all. (n/m) - nixit 17:55:03 04/06/04 ok next, lol. - ZBlacktt 18:36:33 04/06/04 how many Z32s do you know of that had brakes fail? (n/m) - Spee 00:01:10 04/07/04 Yes, they are poor - ZBlacktt 15:16:32 04/06/04 something as simple as a brake fluid flush will - nixit 16:02:52 04/06/04 Yes, Supra have huge brakes for front and back. (n/m) - AzHeat 16:53:31 04/06/04 regular maintenance please. this is hard. - nixit 17:55:58 04/06/04 I believe the car magazine tests noted the braking - AzHeat 18:45:43 04/06/04 I'm not going to write a book here. - ZBlacktt 19:12:47 04/06/04 again... i'll type slow. - nixit 19:28:26 04/06/04 well crap. I apologize to ZBLACKTT for misreading his post. - nixit 19:30:27 04/06/04 LOL, You Rule :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 20:42:23 04/06/04 As expected, your vehicle is in disrepair. (n/m) - Kenny 14:36:26 04/06/04 Whats this all aboot? Whats so funny? (n/m) - dpjax 15:55:58 04/06/04 what?! my brakes aren't stock and they kick ass but even - z rider 16:05:49 04/06/04
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