Subject	They absolutely do sir, the difference here is that
Posted by	Red ZX (SoCal) on February 12, 2004 at 9:15 PM
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In Reply To	Someone said to me the other day, "The forum deserves to posted by AshsZ on February 12, 2004 at 08:37 PM
Message	I did not blame you for a poor product. I did not say something like this: "WTF! I thought these were the best money could buy. I am highly disappointed, they make great power and have awesome craftsmanship, but let me make a suggestion Greg. From now on I think that if they were welded on the OUTSIDE as well as the inside it would be a much better design. I don't see this problem happening if they were made like that. Even though they cracked, I am still pleased with them. I simply exposed a minor design flaw." I posted my results of a product from a vendor. Product results should never be kept in the dark and regardless of whether I would have contacted you before or after my posting, my post would have been exactly the same. If you pay close attention to my post regarding my dyno, I did not mention anything on how pissed off I was at you for your horrible skills or any sort of thing...What I did was...I posted my results of getting re-dynoed with stock programming. Everything else came from others, not from the original post.... Chris 90NA Stage ? aka Red ZX New sig???
Follow Ups	Greg Dupree Downpipes cracked in half!! WTF!!! - WhiteOutZ 19:34:48 02/12/04 if you ask he might replace them for free... never hurts (n/m) - brandon97229 19:36:59 02/12/04 that would take common sense though. (n/m) - KILLR300ZX 19:40:55 02/12/04 Yep it sure would. Which I have none of. (n/m) - WhiteOutZ 19:44:06 02/12/04 Mr. contradiction.... - Jodecy 19:39:04 02/12/04 That's what I was thinking... Dr. Jekyl & Mr. Hyde. (n/m) - degradated 19:42:13 02/12/04 Let me break it down for you.. - WhiteOutZ 19:42:19 02/12/04 Greg honors his warranties. I suggest you call him. - Kenny 19:42:28 02/12/04 Same thing happened to me last week... - Speedy1003 19:43:26 02/12/04 Welding will help... - weingart 19:49:42 02/12/04 Actually that's not true. Also, yours are now weakened - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:16:59 02/12/04 "ask any welder" LOL, or anyone that is up to date on tt.net - Scotts94z32 20:51:07 02/12/04 Well i bookmarked this previous post - kryptonite729 19:56:15 02/12/04 keep in mind the crappy rvm's are new to the market - zboost 20:02:12 02/12/04 Regardless if its RVM or SZ, it is interesting to note that - RegalZ 20:06:45 02/12/04 I can tell you what it is... - Speedy1003 20:13:50 02/12/04 I'll just say this.... - P Rock(OH) 21:33:35 02/12/04 I can say first hand that the key to longevity is to make - DAYTONAZ 20:16:35 02/12/04 The message posted by Russell@Z1 on 20:17:35 02/12/04 was removed by the members on 09:34:54 02/13/04 Don't you think that is kind of contradictory - 96-2+2TT(RETIRED) 20:08:33 02/12/04 Hasn't RVM been out for 10month as well? - kryptonite729 20:47:09 02/12/04 Even if they don't break, GD is still a superior product>>>> - zboost 20:49:15 02/12/04 Well you are missing my point here - kryptonite729 20:59:02 02/12/04 Surely you can't be so naive? - SooperZ95 09:20:31 02/13/04 True and i understand that man but - kryptonite729 09:51:07 02/13/04 Sorry to hear that bro. Talk to him and see what happens... - ProfeZZor X 19:56:33 02/12/04 Before you raise so much hell about the pipes why - Z-Freak 20:00:38 02/12/04 I'm not knocking either him or his product. - WhiteOutZ 20:05:05 02/12/04 You have a funny way of handling it. (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:10:57 02/12/04 I see contrived messaging here... Oooh ahhh.. - AshsZ 20:38:29 02/12/04 Posts like these are benefiting the people that read this - EricTTZ 20:51:00 02/12/04 even though posts like these show that Vendors - T0M 21:21:54 02/12/04 Someone said to me the other day, "The forum deserves to - AshsZ 20:37:41 02/12/04 They absolutely do sir, the difference here is that - Red ZX (SoCal) 21:15:53 02/12/04 Great news? Your dealing w/ a truly repsectble guy - ZBlacktt 20:02:31 02/12/04 agreed. I can't imagine he wouldn't make good on it. (n/m) - Guapo 20:03:58 02/12/04 How long have you had the downpipes on the car? (n/m) - kryptonite729 20:06:18 02/12/04 >>>>>> - zboost 20:09:05 02/12/04 Doh! Reading Comp owns me at times, thanks zboost ;-) (n/m) - kryptonite729 20:16:46 02/12/04 How many miles, wrapped, stainless/mild ets? (n/m) - RegalZ 20:09:13 02/12/04 etc, not ets :-/ (n/m) - RegalZ 20:11:03 02/12/04 10K miles, no wrap, mild steel (n/m) - Speedy1003 20:16:58 02/12/04 ALways use SS for DPs, IMHO, ALways (n/m) - Scotts94z32 20:55:56 02/12/04 Try calling him? He has a warranty...this isn't an issue. - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:09:33 02/12/04 You know if wrap voids his warranty? - zboost 20:11:05 02/12/04 No idea - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:20:03 02/12/04 No Problem wrapping.....I had mine wrapped for 8 years.... - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:21:15 02/12/04 Two people here claimed they failed though..... - AshsZ 20:39:14 02/12/04 Well... - Speedy1003 20:45:30 02/12/04 Odd, more of your chips have failed than downpipes cracked - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 22:55:03 02/12/04 Apples-oranges. I have had about 10 issues of sorts now - AshsZ 00:05:05 02/13/04 Classic case of actions speaking louder then words. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 23:16:00 02/12/04 Hi Evan........ - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:15:25 02/12/04 now that's customer service =) (n/m) - Zeus 20:16:52 02/12/04 Right on!! (n/m) - DAYTONAZ 20:19:14 02/12/04 love this site - for reasons like this (n/m) - dpjax 20:19:53 02/12/04 it shouldnt have gotten to this site until it was resolved.. - Fuzznutz 20:26:50 02/12/04 WOW!! that's what I call customer service! (n/m) - zboost 20:20:19 02/12/04 DAMN! Now that was fast. - WhiteOutZ 20:23:06 02/12/04 No Problem.....I will send you a new set tomorrow and trust - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:26:40 02/12/04 this is exactly why i bought from you in the first place.. - Red300ztt96 20:31:02 02/12/04 THAT is service. kudos :) (n/m) - odysseus(ohio) 20:50:35 02/12/04 *sheds a tear of joy* If only I had more money... - CaptK(ATL) 21:15:59 02/12/04 Hahaha yes, I got them during the subframe spacer war. $45 (n/m) - Chaaarmndr (She's Back!) 22:57:53 02/12/04 Does that make us Vets? =) (n/m) - CaptK(ATL) 23:05:29 02/12/04 I'd say so ;) (n/m) - Chaaarmndr (She's Back!) 01:35:15 02/13/04 Greg does not place blame, he just takes take care of the - colocomp (Denver) 21:36:58 02/12/04 Give this man a PRIZE!! :) - Spongerider :) 11:14:47 02/13/04 Danm, Now thats service!! (n/m) - SaVageZ 01:06:34 02/13/04 Nice Greg. If and when my RVM's crack I'll probably put - Zmas 20:25:59 02/12/04 Don't you bastages wish you lived in SoCAl..20miles - Red ZX (SoCal) 20:34:32 02/12/04 not on Sat. =) - zboost 20:38:47 02/12/04 Yeah... 15 miles away here. I don't know what I'd do without - degradated 20:52:17 02/12/04 wow, great customer service, question... - Nadir(Detroit) 20:44:41 02/12/04 absolutely! (n/m) - Greg D. (Specialty-Z) 20:50:36 02/12/04 Don't forget SGP.....I strongly stand behide Greg's products (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 21:13:37 02/12/04 LOL... way to get in on that customer service props... :) (n/m) - Longhorn20 23:45:57 02/12/04 *applause* (n/m) - Spee 20:51:30 02/12/04 'Nuff said. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:45:17 02/12/04 Flex joints inline on TP's or HiFlow cats would help >> - I am Z-ing Double 22:50:01 02/12/04 Definetly gotten my business in the past, and will continue - Chaaarmndr (She's Back!) 22:56:54 02/12/04 One more reason why I'm a very satisfied customer. (n/m) - Got Z? 00:38:16 02/13/04 It's probably a fluke. Of the many multitude of downpipes - Zmas 20:17:50 02/12/04 Disregard the above post plz...I was late by 2 min - Zmas 20:23:34 02/12/04 Two people here are claiming they failed.. Sounds like - AshsZ 20:36:22 02/12/04 That's not a very nice thing to say, Ash. (n/m) - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 20:38:30 02/12/04 Nothing is apparently. Yesterday I get reamed over an NA - AshsZ 20:41:57 02/12/04 there is a major difference... - Red ZX (SoCal) 20:51:02 02/12/04 I fail to see the non-subjective difference in the two. - AshsZ 20:58:21 02/12/04 And you've taken care of a new EPROM for Red ZX right? (n/m) - EricTTZ 21:02:21 02/12/04 well...I sent it Ash so he can - Red ZX (SoCal) 21:12:29 02/12/04 Lets do this... > Ill send the replacement - AshsZ 21:28:36 02/12/04 thank you...that is excellent... - Red ZX (SoCal) 21:35:33 02/12/04 No change of heart, I was going to take care of you just - AshsZ 21:37:01 02/12/04 Of course he would, once he saw REAL customer service.. - Good2Zya 09:57:47 02/13/04 That is an unfair statement to make Fred. I have already - AshsZ 10:55:29 02/13/04 Yea, right! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 11:22:38 02/13/04 Wow how can you say that? - Good2Zya 12:40:12 02/13/04 I've been in contact with him via email. Not all of the - AshsZ 16:39:33 02/13/04 How is that an unfair assumption? Seems kinda obvious. - T0M 13:39:41 02/13/04 *applause* (n/m) - EricTTZ 22:01:49 02/12/04 A good PR person would work wonders for you guys. - hoss 21:05:01 02/12/04 Amen to that, give hoss a gold star! (n/m) - RegalZ 21:12:36 02/12/04 Nice new sig. (n/m) - EricTTZ 21:13:47 02/12/04 Thanks bro. I took a ton of new pics. I'll post soon. (n/m) - hoss 22:25:27 02/12/04 You don't know customer service...yours SUCKS (n/m) - DrDCanaceu 22:29:46 02/12/04 ? - RobWR14 03:23:34 02/13/04 It's because you like to open your mouth very wide - Spongerider :) 11:19:01 02/13/04 Re: Two people here are claiming they failed.. Sounds like - Sk8rlee 23:40:45 02/12/04 In that case, apply this to yourself. - Smurf Z 09:05:19 02/13/04 Make sure you don't have any broken motor mounts putting - JoneZ 20:32:53 02/12/04 why didn't YOU email or call HIM? (n/m) - Spee 20:45:59 02/12/04 Because quality is rarely inexpensive.. >> - AshsZ 20:50:15 02/12/04 and I hold to that statement. - Spee 20:55:32 02/12/04 Guess he wanted to post first like everyone else these days. (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 20:59:36 02/12/04 yup - RaBBiZ(philly) 00:54:47 02/13/04 Funny how that guy wasn't 'dissing' Ash's ECU. - Spee 13:45:27 02/13/04 He probably should have... - RobWR14 03:22:25 02/13/04 well obviously, Greg is a smart man. - Spee 13:56:26 02/13/04 Condition of exhaust hangers? - kuah@splparts.com 20:58:11 02/12/04 good point that often gets overlooked, Kuah. Some things we - Scotts94z32 21:04:01 02/12/04 which reminds me...wheres my test pipes ???? - Zmas 21:33:19 02/12/04 don't ignore me kuah!!!! - Zmas 22:08:32 02/12/04 LOL, email me... I can't do anything w/ testpipes till March (n/m) - kuah@splparts.com 22:13:53 02/12/04 Greg is as good as they come. - Toso 22:32:43 02/12/04 nice sig! (n/m) - Spee 22:39:50 02/12/04 Thanks, more drift pics to come in a few months... (n/m) - Toso 22:58:58 02/12/04 And you know what? I agree with that 100%. My involvement - AshsZ 23:59:03 02/12/04 Really? It sounded to me like Z1 was taking a cheap shot - T0M 13:46:44 02/13/04 Reading the replies to this post I came up w/ this - DrDCanaceu 22:42:25 02/12/04 There's a lot more to it. The history of this forum goes - AshsZ 23:08:33 02/12/04 All I am saying is that you are flaunting - DrDCanaceu 23:15:07 02/12/04 Maybe... - Shift_(I Need a Rebuild) 23:22:58 02/12/04 Just like you said, maybe, maybe ,maybe, etc... (n/m) - Spongerider :) 11:31:53 02/13/04 Dewd If you dont like Ash, then just STFU - kryptonite729 12:57:12 02/13/04 Really?? - Spongerider :) 13:56:32 02/13/04 Ok so i'm half right and half wrong - kryptonite729 16:48:55 02/13/04 I guess its just the mentality that goes with this forum. - AshsZ 23:28:09 02/12/04 I have to disagree with you, Ash. - CaptK(ATL) 11:57:13 02/13/04 I agree with you and thanks for the post! (n/m) - AshsZ 16:42:27 02/13/04
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