Subject	I agree with that.
Posted by	Spee on February 09, 2004 at 6:26 PM
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In Reply To	You missed my point... posted by ssshakey on February 09, 2004 at 06:21 PM
Message	It just sounded like you were making a comparison without having actually tested one of the variables. I have upgraded stock brakes (rotors, lines, pads, fluid) and they don't compare to the Stoptechs in Bernie's Z. But I agree that if you have crappy tires, the best brakes in the world won't do much. But with good tires, the larger brakes make a noticeable and definate improvement. Guess I kinda got sidetracked on the subject in the offshoot of the thread. :) Later, Spencer AIM: sbsTT14 PETZ member #4 '91 300ZX TT Stage IV+ '96 Jeep Cherokee Sport "That's what it's all about bro. Definition. Don't under estimate the sexyness of a well pimped car. When the bitches are giving me BJ's on the freeway I won't regret a loud exhaust and a phat wing." - ZX-man 21:37:53 10/29/03 "sometimes the older seems stupider" - KuZa 20:20:44 10/22/03 "gotta admit, i do like sac." - Chris(NJ) 15:28:40 05/16/03 "It is just a car, and this is just a message board. Grow up, live your life, quit stressing out about trivial shit." - Steve Simmons 01:51:03 05/24/03
Follow Ups	Big brakes versus stock brakes - ssshakey 14:37:52 02/09/04 right!!! - JC_NS 14:43:14 02/09/04 The problem I've personally encountered w/ the stockers is - PiotrC70 14:51:59 02/09/04 From what i'm told, it's more design / engineering than size - Smurf Z 15:00:52 02/09/04 and neither do the drilled/slotted rotors... they look nice - Scotts94z32 15:06:07 02/09/04 My non-expert thoughts/experiences - Z U N L 15:09:08 02/09/04 truly ground-breaking info there (n/m) - RobWR14 15:34:51 02/09/04 This is why I have been advocating disposable drag chutes - CaptK(ATL) 15:36:56 02/09/04 Thanks for the research. This is what I have been saying - AshsZ 15:38:23 02/09/04 Good info, i have experienced the same in my cousins - Waco300zx 15:42:11 02/09/04 My penis is bigger than yours (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 15:43:23 02/09/04 rubber ducky. - nixit 15:52:59 02/09/04 Re: rubber ducky. - Luke@tirerack 16:05:14 02/09/04 He means with proper pads I'd think - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:18:44 02/09/04 gotta love the search feature - Guapo 16:23:44 02/09/04 =) (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:28:36 02/09/04 You know a guy named Grant who has a wife that works - Tennyson (ATL) 16:19:29 02/09/04 No, fuzzy wuzzy wuz a bear. - AshsZ 16:05:49 02/09/04 Yea!!!! :) (n/m) - Spongerider :) 16:20:20 02/09/04 solar flares? nope. full moon? nope. damn..im at a loss - genic 16:42:14 02/09/04 what's up with all you dallas ppl getting threating emails? (n/m) - Halo Z 16:49:36 02/09/04 im not aware that anyone in dallas is getting anything - genic 16:54:02 02/09/04 You've got mail. =) (n/m) - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 17:14:09 02/09/04 Ahhh.....never mind..... (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:07:29 02/09/04 you too? sweet. i'll be looking for mine too.... (n/m) - Halo Z 17:09:40 02/09/04 It's not just Dallas people :/ (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 17:15:07 02/09/04 ! (n/m) - Spee 18:01:19 02/09/04 wow I feel left out :( - aliaZ 22:04:58 02/09/04 I'm just trying to clear the air... - nixit 17:46:41 02/09/04 Big brakes are better IMHO. - AshsZ 19:12:29 02/09/04 What is your setup? (n/m) - trackstar 20:13:12 02/09/04 I'm with you on this one - Technomancer 16:11:07 02/09/04 Your brake ducting makes an appreciable difference as well, - hoss 16:22:41 02/09/04 yes ... highly recommended (n/m) - Guapo 16:24:56 02/09/04 Yep. It's on my list to do as well. (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:29:08 02/09/04 Absolutely. - nixit 17:51:15 02/09/04 Speedbleeders rock - U ZCREAM 18:16:32 02/09/04 That happens if the lines were completely drained - kuah@splparts.com 19:26:05 02/09/04 Good to know. Thanks (n/m) - U ZCREAM 22:13:33 02/09/04 you have a writeup on those ducts ? pics ? anything ? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 21:36:13 02/09/04 I need to add them to my 'winter to do list' (n/m) - Spee 18:02:39 02/09/04 You know, history shows you're right - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:27:15 02/09/04 You know I agree with you! ;-) (n/m) - PA_Z 17:08:43 02/09/04 Wider tires also help cause of the greater contact patch - PiotrC70 16:18:55 02/09/04 in theory..yes - genic 16:31:20 02/09/04 right, but braking distance does not change!!!! - ssshakey 18:40:31 02/09/04 if the tires hold, distance must change due to more wheel tq (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:19:26 02/09/04 unless of course the bias gets soo skewed it actually hurts - Chris(NJ) 20:24:41 02/09/04 Exactly. You've got it. Check out this link too for more: - PA_Z 21:19:27 02/09/04 So what makes a bigger difference in performance then... - RotaZ 16:30:59 02/09/04 I think you missed the whole point of this thread... (n/m) - CaptK(ATL) 16:53:15 02/09/04 calipers (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:10:12 02/09/04 ever driven a Z with big brakes? - Spee 17:56:09 02/09/04 You missed my point... - ssshakey 18:21:24 02/09/04 I agree with that. - Spee 18:26:36 02/09/04 Still, I think you're talking about FEEL. - ssshakey 18:31:40 02/09/04 fair enough... - Spee 18:41:30 02/09/04 like bernie said....already been tested. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 20:09:07 02/09/04 I know. - Spee 20:31:28 02/09/04 The ST are >. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 22:47:17 02/09/04 blah (n/m) - Guapo 23:44:10 02/09/04 Stop Tech did exactly that prior to the release of their - YugoBernie (NoVA) 18:59:05 02/09/04 Dunno what tires your running, but maybe you need to - trackstar 20:19:55 02/09/04 actually pedal pressure/travel depends greatly on caliper - Chris(NJ) 20:06:20 02/09/04 Definately. Using the stock calipers keeps things in - AshsZ 21:05:13 02/09/04
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