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ripped the knob off, you can take it all the way off and then the pipe wrench will be able to dig into the metal "terminator" skeleton underneath the leather and rubber.
Rule #1 - There's always a bastard!  

JRH(KY): for some reason, when I hear the word 'tranny' I think of transvestite before I do transmission. don't ask me why boileralum: FAGMO! ----------------------------------------- Bill (ImTheDevil): blah blah blah me: Just because you are covered in gasoline right now, doesn't mean you are right!
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