Subject	really? I'll call this, "every DOGma has it's day" --->
Posted by	robo (sebring1970) on January 31, 2004 at 6:38 AM
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In Reply To	the facts; posted by ni[X]it on January 30, 2004 at 10:46 PM
Message	Ethylene glycol is "sickly sweet" tasting and is also a deadly poison. In fact, kids and dogs will drink the stuff spontaneously which is why antifreeze and washer fluid have to have childproof caps on them by federal law. So the glycol improves, and does not detract from the taste. That is why one of the oldest suburban tricks to get rid of a nuisance, neighborhood dog is to put out a bowl of antifreeze. The dog will drink it, and die of kidney failure shortly thereafter. Dogs are also known to be killed accidentally when they lap up a puddle of anti-freeze under a parked car. The usual alcohol in windshield washer fluid is methanol, or methyl alcohol, also known as wood alcohol. This is also a deadly poison and just 2-6 ounces can kill an adult. Even serious alcoholics know not to drink this stuff because it also causes blindness before death.
Follow Ups	Water Injection: "Just add water"; 1st trial run. - AshsZ 19:17:08 01/30/04 *inteerrreessttiiinnnnnggg* good luck Ash. (n/m) - Red ZX (Sr. N00b) 19:25:51 01/30/04 cool (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 19:35:36 01/30/04 OK. Just got back. Running 25psi of boost, 22 degrees - AshsZ 19:44:14 01/30/04 Confused...what does the cost of windshield washer fluid >> - I am Z-ing Double 19:50:39 01/30/04 Windshield washer fluid is being used as the "water" (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:56:00 01/30/04 hmmmm...maybe that is what he is using (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 19:56:26 01/30/04 I think because he uses windshield washer fluid because - robo (sebring1970) 20:03:50 01/30/04 It will also fight corrosion (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:12:24 01/30/04 Good point! With all this brass in the fittings and - AshsZ 20:30:09 01/30/04 Glycol is bad, it behave like sugar and will glue the - northZ 04:09:27 01/31/04 Its been getting down to freezing temps and I dont want - AshsZ 20:08:31 01/30/04 O.K., the freezing/alcohol thing makes sense. >> - I am Z-ing Double 20:33:32 01/30/04 There are no detergents in WW fluid that I am aware of. - AshsZ 20:56:23 01/30/04 the facts; - ni[X]it 22:46:25 01/30/04 really? I'll call this, "every DOGma has it's day" ---> - robo (sebring1970) 06:38:02 01/31/04 Yup, it crystalizes in the liver when metabolized. BAD - AshsZ 07:44:41 01/31/04 the glycol shuts down the kidneys (renal), not the liver - robo (sebring1970) 17:51:28 01/31/04 i've had the displeasure of tasting both. - ni[X]it 10:18:31 01/31/04 most washer fluid doesn't contain any glycol, unless it's - robo (sebring1970) 17:25:31 01/31/04 am braking traction in 3rd gear on good tires - HakenTT 20:11:30 01/30/04 Well, I can see why you were able to run a stock ECU - AshsZ 20:19:07 01/30/04 That's true, with H20 it is necessary to run slightly - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:04:51 01/30/04 Good idea. This whole H2O thing is great for those of us - IBPimpn(Ca) 21:19:17 01/30/04 Agreed. I have been running H2O injection for over - Glenn (San Jose) 23:14:13 01/30/04 I need to do that. I can only run 13# @ 14degrees - IBPimpn(Ca) 23:27:27 01/30/04 that's counterproductive (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 20:37:44 01/30/04 3rd (n/m) - RobWR14 20:38:49 01/30/04 wonder what you could do with h20 inj + race fuel (n/m) - RobWR14 20:34:35 01/30/04 what was the outside air temp today? (n/m) - Scotts94z32 20:54:42 01/30/04 That's the amazing part, its like 40 degrees out and - AshsZ 21:51:03 01/30/04 The Buck GN's here run H20 inj. all the time because - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:00:44 01/30/04 you'll have torque gains with more water, - ni[X]it 22:20:11 01/30/04 How do you figure that? More water may loose power - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 03:15:05 01/31/04 I think its not all about cooling, the volume of the water - northZ 03:58:21 01/31/04 Here is a link to water injection dyno testing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 04:11:31 01/31/04 I wonder if someone will jump their ass for using STD - AshsZ 07:49:21 01/31/04 Ah, well in that case I think I will be adding more nozzles. - AshsZ 07:56:25 01/31/04 I am thinking of designing and running a staged - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:08:41 01/31/04 I have considered doing that too. But I'm leaning more to - AshsZ 10:49:49 01/31/04 That's true plus you have extra buffer from the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:06:26 01/31/04 subaru guys say >> - MaTT (90TT) 20:45:45 01/30/04 That's awesome man, can't wait to hear the results (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 20:57:53 01/30/04 The other added beneift to H20 injection is that the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:02:14 01/30/04 Thats awesome, so make me a kit already :) (n/m) - ZisLuv 21:19:55 01/30/04
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