Subject	Water Injection: "Just add water"; 1st trial run.
Posted by	AshsZ on January 30, 2004 at 7:17 PM
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Message	Just got back from a blistering bunch of fun with the slicktop running with injection enabled. I'm quite pleased with the results ths far. There is a definate increase in power, not to mention I was able to advance my timing under full load by an additional 5 degrees without detonation. Rather than go with the butt-dyno, I can say that I used to only spin 2nd gear about half way through the revs and now the wheels are spinning until 3rd gear. 3rd gear even got a bit loose when I first took off as the tires were still cold. I have not turned up the boost yet - waiting for my DAQ software to finish installing (reloaded my OS and apps the other day and didn't install it yet). I'm getting ready to go out and see what kind of boost and timing I can run before it starts pinging.. I was able to run 24psi before at ~23-25 degrees of timing advance under full load without ping on VP110 race fuel.. We'll see how close to that I can get with this and make some comparative notes. Be back in a few.... [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Water Injection: "Just add water"; 1st trial run. - AshsZ 19:17:08 01/30/04 *inteerrreessttiiinnnnnggg* good luck Ash. (n/m) - Red ZX (Sr. N00b) 19:25:51 01/30/04 cool (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 19:35:36 01/30/04 OK. Just got back. Running 25psi of boost, 22 degrees - AshsZ 19:44:14 01/30/04 Confused...what does the cost of windshield washer fluid >> - I am Z-ing Double 19:50:39 01/30/04 Windshield washer fluid is being used as the "water" (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:56:00 01/30/04 hmmmm...maybe that is what he is using (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 19:56:26 01/30/04 I think because he uses windshield washer fluid because - robo (sebring1970) 20:03:50 01/30/04 It will also fight corrosion (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:12:24 01/30/04 Good point! With all this brass in the fittings and - AshsZ 20:30:09 01/30/04 Glycol is bad, it behave like sugar and will glue the - northZ 04:09:27 01/31/04 Its been getting down to freezing temps and I dont want - AshsZ 20:08:31 01/30/04 O.K., the freezing/alcohol thing makes sense. >> - I am Z-ing Double 20:33:32 01/30/04 There are no detergents in WW fluid that I am aware of. - AshsZ 20:56:23 01/30/04 the facts; - ni[X]it 22:46:25 01/30/04 really? I'll call this, "every DOGma has it's day" ---> - robo (sebring1970) 06:38:02 01/31/04 Yup, it crystalizes in the liver when metabolized. BAD - AshsZ 07:44:41 01/31/04 the glycol shuts down the kidneys (renal), not the liver - robo (sebring1970) 17:51:28 01/31/04 i've had the displeasure of tasting both. - ni[X]it 10:18:31 01/31/04 most washer fluid doesn't contain any glycol, unless it's - robo (sebring1970) 17:25:31 01/31/04 am braking traction in 3rd gear on good tires - HakenTT 20:11:30 01/30/04 Well, I can see why you were able to run a stock ECU - AshsZ 20:19:07 01/30/04 That's true, with H20 it is necessary to run slightly - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:04:51 01/30/04 Good idea. This whole H2O thing is great for those of us - IBPimpn(Ca) 21:19:17 01/30/04 Agreed. I have been running H2O injection for over - Glenn (San Jose) 23:14:13 01/30/04 I need to do that. I can only run 13# @ 14degrees - IBPimpn(Ca) 23:27:27 01/30/04 that's counterproductive (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 20:37:44 01/30/04 3rd (n/m) - RobWR14 20:38:49 01/30/04 wonder what you could do with h20 inj + race fuel (n/m) - RobWR14 20:34:35 01/30/04 what was the outside air temp today? (n/m) - Scotts94z32 20:54:42 01/30/04 That's the amazing part, its like 40 degrees out and - AshsZ 21:51:03 01/30/04 The Buck GN's here run H20 inj. all the time because - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:00:44 01/30/04 you'll have torque gains with more water, - ni[X]it 22:20:11 01/30/04 How do you figure that? More water may loose power - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 03:15:05 01/31/04 I think its not all about cooling, the volume of the water - northZ 03:58:21 01/31/04 Here is a link to water injection dyno testing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 04:11:31 01/31/04 I wonder if someone will jump their ass for using STD - AshsZ 07:49:21 01/31/04 Ah, well in that case I think I will be adding more nozzles. - AshsZ 07:56:25 01/31/04 I am thinking of designing and running a staged - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:08:41 01/31/04 I have considered doing that too. But I'm leaning more to - AshsZ 10:49:49 01/31/04 That's true plus you have extra buffer from the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:06:26 01/31/04 subaru guys say >> - MaTT (90TT) 20:45:45 01/30/04 That's awesome man, can't wait to hear the results (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 20:57:53 01/30/04 The other added beneift to H20 injection is that the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:02:14 01/30/04 Thats awesome, so make me a kit already :) (n/m) - ZisLuv 21:19:55 01/30/04
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