Subject	I won't take that personal
Posted by	xtensive on December 17, 2003 at 5:47 PM
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In Reply To	Stillen sells JWT ECUs.. But they too have real time trace>> posted by AshsZ on December 17, 2003 at 05:25 PM
Message	Even though I feel there was an undertone of discreditation going on... There is a whole community of Z enthusiasts that want to learn more about tuning. The goal is that everyone will help everyone else out. That is how it can be a free and a viable solution. The more support and involvement the better things will be. I am more than willing to sit and chat with someone all night to help them better understand how to tune, and soon there will be a whole chest of tools that will make this very very easy to do. There are plenty of others willing to do the same, and there is starting to be enough documentation and sharing and support that that won't even be needed anymore anyway. So, if I leave the Z community tomorrow it will change nothing at all. Mike
Follow Ups	Is this better than buying a chip from Stillen? - Choda Boy 15:37:38 12/17/03 No. Z1 or JWT ECU. Z1 is a forum sponsor, and so is - BigTDogg (MA) 15:46:42 12/17/03 ash in 3...2... (n/m) - genic 15:48:25 12/17/03 Yeah, the 925style program was a good program. - SooperZ95 15:51:07 12/17/03 Youre forgetting the $720 in hardware needed to use ZCnotrol (n/m) - AshsZ 16:01:56 12/17/03 I bought my hardware for under $80 shipped. - SooperZ95 16:06:54 12/17/03 $720 in hardware? - xtensive 16:15:06 12/17/03 Lets realistically break it down... - AshsZ 16:27:29 12/17/03 My take - xtensive 16:37:29 12/17/03 The whole post was misguided. He thought ROMEditor - AshsZ 16:44:16 12/17/03 It's as refined as JWT or Stillen - xtensive 16:53:25 12/17/03 Stillen sells JWT ECUs.. But they too have real time trace>> - AshsZ 17:25:05 12/17/03 We support each other in the Z community (Group Hug) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:27:58 12/17/03 I won't take that personal - xtensive 17:47:11 12/17/03 Are you going to start making split downpipes anytime - AshsZ 18:03:16 12/17/03 That is un-called for. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:11:20 12/17/03 I want free split downpipes. - Stealth021 20:57:46 12/17/03 tune ur ECU for free! only $8.95 - felixx23 (DFW) 15:56:27 12/17/03 Re: tune ur ECU for free! only $8.95 - genic 15:59:46 12/17/03 LOL!!! oh god that sux!! - felixx23 (DFW) 15:59:00 12/17/03 challenge - felixx23 (DFW) 16:00:04 12/17/03 That software is free, LOL.. - AshsZ 15:58:54 12/17/03 Check out the 27SF256 chips, they are electronically erasabl - SooperZ95 16:14:26 12/17/03 Save a few bucks there, but that's already the cheap - AshsZ 16:25:54 12/17/03 You can't tune a $600 JWT EPROM, or even a $300 ASHSpec one. - SooperZ95 16:56:22 12/17/03 LOL, inflating prices? You just said yourself that - AshsZ 17:15:43 12/17/03 Why don't you just suckerpunch me, lol? - SooperZ95 17:27:49 12/17/03 Then I guess we're both just missing each other's point. - AshsZ 17:49:59 12/17/03 The more accurate way to tune is on an open road - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:50:31 12/17/03 Joel(PA) gave his take of that.. (He has a ZEM) - AshsZ 17:19:18 12/17/03 How can road tune not be accurate? Joel even said it - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:24:44 12/17/03 Have you compared your A/F on the road to your A/F - AshsZ 17:26:36 12/17/03 but the load factor is different because your engine's - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:30:46 12/17/03 Nah, wrong there bro.. 4th gear on the dyno simulates - AshsZ 17:58:34 12/17/03 3200lbs and constant load vs. 3600lbs and increasing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:09:21 12/17/03 I disagree 110%......Dyno tuned does not equal track or ---> - Kyle(Houston) 20:48:01 12/17/03 That's how we tune most of the cars out here and it works - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:30:27 12/17/03 Disclaimer: Easy to blow a motor. If you do not have a spare - Chip(GMS Racing) 21:20:04 12/17/03 when will you ever learn ASH, you are Not GOD.... - kabubi13(Tx) 21:46:46 12/17/03
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