Subject	Why don't you just suckerpunch me, lol?
Posted by	SooperZ95 on December 17, 2003 at 5:27 PM
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In Reply To	LOL, inflating prices? You just said yourself that posted by AshsZ on December 17, 2003 at 05:15 PM
Message	The whole post wasn't about tuning ECUs. He wanted to know if the 925Style program was a better alternative to shelling out the cash for a Stillen (JWT) EPROM upgrade. I don't recall him mentioning he wanted the ability to do real-time tracing of the maps so he could tune his car. You can't do this on anyones basic ECU upgrade. Not JWTs, not yours, and not Devins. I understand tuning an EPROM Ash, thanks for the insult to my intelligence. Did I ever say "hey get Zcontrol, you can finely tune your car for $182". Nope. You can make your car stageIII for $182 though. And you can spend time, like you said, with a consult or equivalent and *tune* your car if you don't like the basic stageIII maps.
Follow Ups	Is this better than buying a chip from Stillen? - Choda Boy 15:37:38 12/17/03 No. Z1 or JWT ECU. Z1 is a forum sponsor, and so is - BigTDogg (MA) 15:46:42 12/17/03 ash in 3...2... (n/m) - genic 15:48:25 12/17/03 Yeah, the 925style program was a good program. - SooperZ95 15:51:07 12/17/03 Youre forgetting the $720 in hardware needed to use ZCnotrol (n/m) - AshsZ 16:01:56 12/17/03 I bought my hardware for under $80 shipped. - SooperZ95 16:06:54 12/17/03 $720 in hardware? - xtensive 16:15:06 12/17/03 Lets realistically break it down... - AshsZ 16:27:29 12/17/03 My take - xtensive 16:37:29 12/17/03 The whole post was misguided. He thought ROMEditor - AshsZ 16:44:16 12/17/03 It's as refined as JWT or Stillen - xtensive 16:53:25 12/17/03 Stillen sells JWT ECUs.. But they too have real time trace>> - AshsZ 17:25:05 12/17/03 We support each other in the Z community (Group Hug) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:27:58 12/17/03 I won't take that personal - xtensive 17:47:11 12/17/03 Are you going to start making split downpipes anytime - AshsZ 18:03:16 12/17/03 That is un-called for. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:11:20 12/17/03 I want free split downpipes. - Stealth021 20:57:46 12/17/03 tune ur ECU for free! only $8.95 - felixx23 (DFW) 15:56:27 12/17/03 Re: tune ur ECU for free! only $8.95 - genic 15:59:46 12/17/03 LOL!!! oh god that sux!! - felixx23 (DFW) 15:59:00 12/17/03 challenge - felixx23 (DFW) 16:00:04 12/17/03 That software is free, LOL.. - AshsZ 15:58:54 12/17/03 Check out the 27SF256 chips, they are electronically erasabl - SooperZ95 16:14:26 12/17/03 Save a few bucks there, but that's already the cheap - AshsZ 16:25:54 12/17/03 You can't tune a $600 JWT EPROM, or even a $300 ASHSpec one. - SooperZ95 16:56:22 12/17/03 LOL, inflating prices? You just said yourself that - AshsZ 17:15:43 12/17/03 Why don't you just suckerpunch me, lol? - SooperZ95 17:27:49 12/17/03 Then I guess we're both just missing each other's point. - AshsZ 17:49:59 12/17/03 The more accurate way to tune is on an open road - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:50:31 12/17/03 Joel(PA) gave his take of that.. (He has a ZEM) - AshsZ 17:19:18 12/17/03 How can road tune not be accurate? Joel even said it - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:24:44 12/17/03 Have you compared your A/F on the road to your A/F - AshsZ 17:26:36 12/17/03 but the load factor is different because your engine's - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:30:46 12/17/03 Nah, wrong there bro.. 4th gear on the dyno simulates - AshsZ 17:58:34 12/17/03 3200lbs and constant load vs. 3600lbs and increasing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:09:21 12/17/03 I disagree 110%......Dyno tuned does not equal track or ---> - Kyle(Houston) 20:48:01 12/17/03 That's how we tune most of the cars out here and it works - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:30:27 12/17/03 Disclaimer: Easy to blow a motor. If you do not have a spare - Chip(GMS Racing) 21:20:04 12/17/03 when will you ever learn ASH, you are Not GOD.... - kabubi13(Tx) 21:46:46 12/17/03
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