Subject	That software is free, LOL..
Posted by	AshsZ on December 17, 2003 at 3:58 PM
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In Reply To	Is this better than buying a chip from Stillen? posted by Choda Boy on December 17, 2003 at 03:37 PM
Message	And by itself is useless. Here's what you will need to make that work: $150 Eprom reader/writer $50 EPROM eraser $20 in chips $50 ECU socketing job $450 ConZult to datalog your pulls $720 TOTAL Now if you know what you're doing and you're quick with reading datalog files (quite long) and making changes where they need to be made, you're looking at spending at least 2X more on the dyno than you would with the ZEM, and you would only be saving yourself $30. At $100/$120 per hour to tune your car on the dyno, you would have made it more cost effective to have just bought a ZEM to tune with in the beginning.. Currently there is nothing as complete or comprehensive as the ZEM. [ http://z1motorsports.com/Products/Electrical%20Upgrades/ZEMulator/zemulator.asp ] [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast?
Follow Ups	Is this better than buying a chip from Stillen? - Choda Boy 15:37:38 12/17/03 No. Z1 or JWT ECU. Z1 is a forum sponsor, and so is - BigTDogg (MA) 15:46:42 12/17/03 ash in 3...2... (n/m) - genic 15:48:25 12/17/03 Yeah, the 925style program was a good program. - SooperZ95 15:51:07 12/17/03 Youre forgetting the $720 in hardware needed to use ZCnotrol (n/m) - AshsZ 16:01:56 12/17/03 I bought my hardware for under $80 shipped. - SooperZ95 16:06:54 12/17/03 $720 in hardware? - xtensive 16:15:06 12/17/03 Lets realistically break it down... - AshsZ 16:27:29 12/17/03 My take - xtensive 16:37:29 12/17/03 The whole post was misguided. He thought ROMEditor - AshsZ 16:44:16 12/17/03 It's as refined as JWT or Stillen - xtensive 16:53:25 12/17/03 Stillen sells JWT ECUs.. But they too have real time trace>> - AshsZ 17:25:05 12/17/03 We support each other in the Z community (Group Hug) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:27:58 12/17/03 I won't take that personal - xtensive 17:47:11 12/17/03 Are you going to start making split downpipes anytime - AshsZ 18:03:16 12/17/03 That is un-called for. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:11:20 12/17/03 I want free split downpipes. - Stealth021 20:57:46 12/17/03 tune ur ECU for free! only $8.95 - felixx23 (DFW) 15:56:27 12/17/03 Re: tune ur ECU for free! only $8.95 - genic 15:59:46 12/17/03 LOL!!! oh god that sux!! - felixx23 (DFW) 15:59:00 12/17/03 challenge - felixx23 (DFW) 16:00:04 12/17/03 That software is free, LOL.. - AshsZ 15:58:54 12/17/03 Check out the 27SF256 chips, they are electronically erasabl - SooperZ95 16:14:26 12/17/03 Save a few bucks there, but that's already the cheap - AshsZ 16:25:54 12/17/03 You can't tune a $600 JWT EPROM, or even a $300 ASHSpec one. - SooperZ95 16:56:22 12/17/03 LOL, inflating prices? You just said yourself that - AshsZ 17:15:43 12/17/03 Why don't you just suckerpunch me, lol? - SooperZ95 17:27:49 12/17/03 Then I guess we're both just missing each other's point. - AshsZ 17:49:59 12/17/03 The more accurate way to tune is on an open road - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:50:31 12/17/03 Joel(PA) gave his take of that.. (He has a ZEM) - AshsZ 17:19:18 12/17/03 How can road tune not be accurate? Joel even said it - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:24:44 12/17/03 Have you compared your A/F on the road to your A/F - AshsZ 17:26:36 12/17/03 but the load factor is different because your engine's - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:30:46 12/17/03 Nah, wrong there bro.. 4th gear on the dyno simulates - AshsZ 17:58:34 12/17/03 3200lbs and constant load vs. 3600lbs and increasing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:09:21 12/17/03 I disagree 110%......Dyno tuned does not equal track or ---> - Kyle(Houston) 20:48:01 12/17/03 That's how we tune most of the cars out here and it works - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 18:30:27 12/17/03 Disclaimer: Easy to blow a motor. If you do not have a spare - Chip(GMS Racing) 21:20:04 12/17/03 when will you ever learn ASH, you are Not GOD.... - kabubi13(Tx) 21:46:46 12/17/03
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