Subject	I don't understand the point of this whole debate.
Posted by	Jackie on December 08, 2003 at 8:01 PM
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In Reply To	Someone asked about Supra 2835 dyno charts >> posted by Chip(GMS Racing) on December 08, 2003 at 02:32 PM
Message	To me, this whole thing is like a middleweight boxer that just got his ass kicked by a heavyweight, arguing that even though he lost, his punches are "better". I realize that you're talking about turbo vs. turbo, VG vs. 2JZ, but I just wanted to make this point... Peacemaker is one hell of a car, no one can deny that. That's some insane power. It's one of, if not the most powerful Z in the country. But that's the thing; there are *dozens* of examples of Supras making more power than it, some as much as ~300rwhp more. It's like TT envy for NA guys... just admit that Supras make more power than Z's, more easily, and get over it. They punch harder than Z's. "The car easily re-set the world record for the strongest stock bottom end, belting out an impressive 958 rwhp SAE at 31 psi and a 50 shot of nitrous." t04r.com How many Z's have done that? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for you going for some insane HP numbers... but why compare it to Supras? It doesn't need to a competition.
Follow Ups	Someone asked about Supra 2835 dyno charts >> - Chip(GMS Racing) 14:32:24 12/08/03 That is crazy power to produce on a stock in line 6. What is - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 14:37:53 12/08/03 I have an opinion. - Stealth021 14:51:11 12/08/03 That would be me. But I'm not convinced, this being the - AshsZ 14:45:56 12/08/03 you *might* be right but he still gets the NISMO keychain (n/m) - kryptonite729 14:52:46 12/08/03 LOL, not quite.. - AshsZ 15:52:29 12/08/03 Re: That would be me. But I'm not convinced, this being the - David 280Z 14:54:14 12/08/03 Bearing count? - Kenny 14 psi 15:00:18 12/08/03 lol, "pun intended" (n/m) - inf 15:09:54 12/08/03 The housing hurts its topend flow. - Chip(GMS Racing) 15:03:28 12/08/03 I give up, spelling is not my friend today. (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 15:04:39 12/08/03 I agree Chip, or Ash could compare a Supra dyno - J-Z91(OH) 17:33:05 12/08/03 I see where Ash is coming from. It's just hard to be - emo236 15:13:51 12/08/03 Um, wrong. They are different sized turbos. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 15:21:36 12/08/03 Um, wrong again. There are SOME different sets of turbo's. - larryb 15:24:58 12/08/03 I have seen two sets with different ar's, every other set - larryb 15:30:28 12/08/03 Then by all means, post them. I was going off of what I saw. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 15:32:47 12/08/03 Sorry to lazy. Go to supraforums.com and look under dyno's. - larryb 15:34:46 12/08/03 "Look how it falls off so much at higher RPM.. "...ROFL.... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 15:22:38 12/08/03 I feel like I'm picking on the retarded kid when I say - AshsZ 15:54:02 12/08/03 You crack me up Ash----> - Kyle(Houston) 16:56:03 12/08/03 i like how the supra makes power quicker. (n/m) - Halo Z 17:27:08 12/08/03 Definately more 'redlight to redlight' streetable.. (n/m) - AshsZ 17:49:37 12/08/03 i dn't think anything with that much Hp has streetable - Halo Z 18:11:28 12/08/03 I'm only seeing the supra spin to ~7K, maybe 7200. - AshsZ 17:46:17 12/08/03 LOL - T0M 18:09:18 12/08/03 *power band*...we are comparing a 2000rpm power band---> - Kyle(Houston) 19:08:19 12/08/03 I don't understand the point of this whole debate. - Jackie 20:01:29 12/08/03 2nd order harmonics is a start, but not many understand - AshsZ 13:23:57 12/09/03 Re: 2nd order harmonics is a start, but not many understand - Arturo C. 16:54:20 12/09/03
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