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First off my owning a van has nothing to do with this post, and your searching my profile to find something to nitpick just shows how childish you truely are. Owning a Z does not make you a better person (or in this case a smarter one either). Second you being the first person to mention the GT-R is a blatant lie, Yugobernie was the first person to say anything involving the GT-R long before your retard rants.dumbass Third... "quite pretending you know me, you don't." ... you are absolutely right I don't know you, and I'd like it to remain that way, I don't associate with children, liars and retards. Fourth this wasn't started as Skyline vrs. anything. The only reason the Maxima was brought up is because they share cultural similarities, as both the Skyline (non GT-R) and Maxima play the same role as Nissan's flagship full size sedan. If you had the slightest training in reading comprehension you would see that no where in my previous posts did I say that the Maxima and Skyline share history or drivetrains (did you even READ my post?) (do you know the definition of the word culture for that matter?) Fifth, The Fairlady Z and the Skyline are not compareable, although they may have similar qualities, such as turbo's and 2 doors thats about where the buck stops, they were both built with different objectives in mind ever since their inception. (but since you claim to know so much about Skyline and Fairlady Z history you should already know that). Lastly, I don't give a flying f*ck about Pikes Peak, wow the Skyline GT-R made a few victories stock, what relevance does this have to the original topic, that the Skyline serves the same purpose in Japan as the Maxima does here, it's a full size sedan get used to it. As for my reply to your post about the wins at Pikes Peak YOU left out important details including the cars being stock my reply was completely acceptable with the information given, you never specified whether the winners were stock or race modified, until after my reply. As for educating me, you've got your work cut out, it'll be mighty hard for you to learn how to spell and form a proper sentence before you could teach me. You also don't know jack-shit about me and my van so keep your judgements to yourself, unlike you I don't come online to lie about my life, I drive a 1994 Dodge Caravan, so f*cking what. If it makes you feel like a bigger man, I'm missing 2 hubcaps and the paint is starting to chip. I'm done with you for tonight, so go ahead and reply to this I know you children can't sleep without getting the last word, as I've seen in all of your posts in this thread, but before you do I'd like to present you with TT.net's annual Assclown Type R Award you earned it. 
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