Subject	Re: Ok, so what would you expect to gain from this?
Posted by	Kenny 14 psi on December 01, 2003 at 12:01 PM
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In Reply To	Ok, so what would you expect to gain from this? posted by BigTDogg (MA) on December 01, 2003 at 11:53 AM
Message	"5, 10 hp tops??" Exactly. Honestly - a simple piggy-back fuel controller is less than an exhaust system (~$375), and has the potential to create equivalent gains. I don't feel that the inaccuracies of the fuel maps are anything which couldn't be better solved by the JWT ECU. You don't "feel"? Tuning fuel has nothing to do with how you feel about anything. Having a piggy back fuel controller(S-AFC), is about fine-tuning the fuel for your specific application. Last time I checked, JWTs ECU was not fine tuned for each and every specific vehicle. Again, it's not a guaranteed 15 rwhp, but neither are any of the other NA mods. You may get 0 hp gain... or you may get up to 15, depending upon how well the fuel is already tuned. The only need for more fuel is more air. Huh? If I'm wrong, prove it. Done. WAR!! Kenny... PETZ Member #5 genic: 'it doesnt work..you changed something last night..and now it doesnt work' .. 'really? cause i didnt know i stay at work 24/7 and change stuff just to mess with you' .. 'well it doesnt work today' .. 'really? let me connect and see...hmm..so you cant do this *doing what she cant do* ..and this? *doing it again* ...wow, i must have really changed something' *click*
Follow Ups	When does a person need a fuel controller? - Goose1451 10:39:21 12/01/03 To fine tune the fuel for more power and safety (n/m) - ImTheDevil 10:41:09 12/01/03 Would I get more power on a stock NA? (n/m) - Goose1451 10:44:44 12/01/03 ummm, maybe a TAD. (n/m) - Gsujeff55 10:46:38 12/01/03 How about you start off with a JWT pop. (n/m) - whitepearlz 10:47:14 12/01/03 2nd. (n/m) - max240 10:48:45 12/01/03 Already have Injen intake and pulley. - Goose1451 10:55:55 12/01/03 your not going to see the full potential of your - GodZilla(noVA) 11:37:32 12/01/03 I completely agree with GodZilla, if you're - whitepearlz 11:43:24 12/01/03 no not really.. you would run the chances of rich - GodZilla(noVA) 10:48:30 12/01/03 i would think he would wanna lean it out! (n/m) - Gsujeff55 11:23:15 12/01/03 too much to either side will have bad news for him - GodZilla(noVA) 11:27:15 12/01/03 Doubtful. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:55:59 12/01/03 between 0 and 15 rwhp. (n/m) - nixit 10:57:30 12/01/03 So, about the same as a huge GT-R-Super-Spec-V badge? (n/m) - whitepearlz 11:21:42 12/01/03 Fuel tuning can have a major impact on performance. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 11:24:44 12/01/03 roughly, how much would it cost to dyno tune it? (n/m) - stockplayerz (NYC) 11:25:59 12/01/03 That would depend on where you have it dynoed. (n/m) - FlawleZ 11:30:01 12/01/03 $60 to $200 an hour depending on about 8 different factors. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 11:46:14 12/01/03 But on a Stage 0 NA, there really is no benefit. - whitepearlz 11:31:06 12/01/03 what about my stage III NA?? would a fuel controller and - takirb 11:35:49 12/01/03 suspension!~ (n/m) - GodZilla(noVA) 11:38:03 12/01/03 2nd myself (n/m) - GodZilla(noVA) 11:48:16 12/01/03 lol (n/m) - Jackie 12:55:19 12/01/03 Re: what about my stage III NA?? would a fuel controller and - whitepearlz 11:39:38 12/01/03 please sit on your hands. - nixit 11:56:20 12/01/03 so in other words if my NA is poorly tuned/maintained - takirb 12:05:35 12/01/03 yes and no. whatever. it's out of my hands. (n/m) - nixit 12:09:11 12/01/03 Not on an NA. Constant Air Volume. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:39:52 12/01/03 That has little to do with the accuracy of the fuel maps. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 11:45:04 12/01/03 Ok, so what would you expect to gain from this? - BigTDogg (MA) 11:53:05 12/01/03 tuning an NA requires 4 things; - nixit 11:58:57 12/01/03 I guess my impression is that the average NA user isn't - BigTDogg (MA) 12:13:04 12/01/03 Re: Ok, so what would you expect to gain from this? - Kenny 14 psi 12:01:41 12/01/03 LOL, ok... - BigTDogg (MA) 12:16:09 12/01/03 Agreed. I did "power" mods on my NA. Nothing happened. - Kenny 14 psi 12:35:35 12/01/03 seconded. - nixit 11:50:52 12/01/03 No. (n/m) - nixit 11:50:19 12/01/03 Benefits vary on N/A's..... - FlawleZ 11:28:51 12/01/03 not much. (n/m) - FS Z 12:50:13 12/01/03 Thanks for all the input. It helped alot. - Goose1451 18:36:50 12/01/03
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