Subject	The whole point is that all the cat-backs add
Posted by	Only1Z on October 26, 2003 at 1:01 AM
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In Reply To	vs. 2 X the price for poor design? posted by Janders on October 26, 2003 at 01:53 AM
Message	roughly the same amount of hp. When it really comes down to deciding on an exhaust, you need to consider looks, the material it's made from (stainless steel rocks), the quality (nice welds, good fit, etc.), the sound, etc. I have HKS aluminized piping on another car and it's rusty after a year. My B&B blows it away. It's not about cost at all. It's all about putting them next to each other and figuring out what has the most going for it. I have NOT seen a LaBree in person, but unfortunately I've seen too many Hypers. It just can't compare in any category except for power (in which ALL the cat-backs are very close). Also, one Chicago guy was complaining at one of our events that the Labree split downpipes were rusting after 6 months! Always get stainless steel if you can. It's worth the extra money in itself.
Follow Ups	IS THE B&B EXHAUST REALLY THAT MUCH BETTER THAN THE HIPER - nismozcar 17:43:30 10/25/03 HiPer is not full stainless and has a totally different look - YugoBernie (NoVA) 17:49:46 10/25/03 You'll get a mix of fans of each here.If price is what your - zeddiea27 17:52:35 10/25/03 Re: IS THE B&B EXHAUST REALLY THAT MUCH BETTER THAN THE HIPER - (SHOWTIME!) 17:59:08 10/25/03 u got a pic of ur car with the hiper showtime! (n/m) - nismozcar 18:42:12 10/25/03 that`s a sore spot... - (SHOWTIME!) 20:36:35 10/25/03 Hiper is not full SS, and has an H-pipe. Not to mention ugly - Spee 19:01:48 10/25/03 Nice crooked mufflers...ghetto!!! (n/m) - boostle 20:31:45 10/25/03 Nice pr3etzel bent pipes..B&B!! (n/m) - Janders 21:12:16 10/25/03 bah, they are straight now... - Spee 22:33:21 10/25/03 Agreed, I have slightly crooked Apex RS canisters :) (n/m) - boostle 02:29:15 10/26/03 fool..we got 2 crooked legs to stand on (n/m) - Janders 11:27:25 10/26/03 hyper will make more power than b&b. - T0M 19:09:39 10/25/03 im getting hyper it looks awsome and is so much cheaper! (n/m) - nismozcar 19:29:02 10/25/03 go you! .................................................. (n/m) - big gixx 20:11:12 10/25/03 B&B is nice, it's made from nice materials. But the - John@Z1 19:40:13 10/25/03 Hiper=power, B&B=shiny (n/m) - Janders 21:10:29 10/25/03 Damn shame it's a eyesore & a police magnet too :-/ (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:39:49 10/25/03 I've never had popo probs : / (n/m) - Janders 22:20:54 10/25/03 LaBree will get you the best of both worlds :) - SeedyROM 21:58:42 10/25/03 2nd, LaBree is the best designed: ) (n/m) - Janders 22:21:32 10/25/03 Debateable. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 22:39:18 10/25/03 Ok, I'll say it again then... - SeedyROM 23:00:05 10/25/03 You won't convince many - Janders 23:31:08 10/25/03 Either way - point is "looks similar to B&B" is an opinion. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 00:45:37 10/26/03 lol, can't argue looks..it's all subjective - Janders 00:56:24 10/26/03 "1/2 the price for half-assed" I guess that works. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:50:00 10/26/03 vs. 2 X the price for poor design? - Janders 01:53:33 10/26/03 The whole point is that all the cat-backs add - Only1Z 01:01:02 10/26/03 I hear ya. And even stainless the Labree is much cheaper (n/m) - SeedyROM 01:49:23 10/26/03 Yep...LaBree in stainless would be another choice of mine. (n/m) - Only1Z 11:42:30 10/26/03 Yeah. Holy crap, I haven't even bothered to reply to the - SeedyROM 14:10:36 10/26/03 Yeah...I just joined in toward the end too... - Only1Z 17:23:13 10/26/03 I don't see a 13-15hp as difference as roughly the same - Janders 11:24:27 10/26/03 Yes, but that doesn't make it a better buy... - Only1Z 11:45:30 10/26/03 What is the error bar? - kuah@splparts.com 12:01:10 10/26/03 Unfortunately to properly quantify that - Janders 12:18:38 10/26/03 Re: Unfortunately to properly quantify that - kuah@splparts.com 12:45:01 10/26/03 I agree - Janders 12:53:54 10/26/03 You seem to understand probability analysis well - Janders 12:50:18 10/26/03 Re: You seem to understand probability analysis well - kuah@splparts.com 13:18:57 10/26/03 If hpipe, whack fitment & cheap materials = "good design" - YugoBernie (NoVA) 10:30:20 10/26/03 nice bends and straight through mufflers=good design - Janders 11:17:43 10/26/03 Hate to have to say this but...did you know this topic has - Zenn 21:43:19 10/25/03 it's not in the thousands? (n/m) - Janders 22:23:08 10/25/03 I was thinking more in the millions by now :) (n/m) - Spee 22:34:03 10/25/03 Hiper performs better, is much cheaper, - NR98 (next year) 10:27:09 10/26/03 Can you define "fits" please? - YugoBernie (NoVA) 10:31:56 10/26/03
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