putting them on this winter. But again compared to stock turbo's with dp/tp there is NO WAY they will spool close to stock. I mean look at the dyno charts that therinL posted. They spool MUCH slower. I have never driven or even rode in a TD05 car but by the dyno's they seem to spool much slower. I can see they start making power at 3000-3200 but they will not make as much power as early as stock turbo's, it's just impossible. The charts show the proof of that.