Subject	They aren't. These are prototype turbos built to my specs
Posted by	AshsZ on October 10, 2003 at 5:37 PM
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In Reply To	Flow Charts Available? (n/m) posted by Eggman on October 10, 2003 at 05:32 PM
Message	and honestly, I dont know exactly what their flow capacity is. I know all the specifics; inducer/exducer for turbine and compressor, wheel type, A/R values for comp and turbine, but since it is a hybrid turbo it would require extensive testing to generate a map of them of which we aren't going to get into. What I can tell you though is what power they will make with whatever mods are used on the Z they are on. That information tells you volumes of information more critical than a compressor map. What people dont have, and what makes a bigger difference in how a turbo behaves, is a turbine performance map. While we do not have these as they are trade secrets that garrett keeps, I have enough empirical data to build the map for the turbine myself. [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast?
Follow Ups	Dyno Results are in! Z1 Motorsports Stage2 620HP Turbos! - AshsZ 16:51:40 10/10/03 :adds to purchase list: (n/m) - Z Wang(Austin) 16:54:14 10/10/03 nice - RaBBiZ(philly) 16:55:31 10/10/03 2nd that request on the injectors, the cats out of the - DAYTONAZ 18:22:17 10/10/03 Nippon Denso 570cc injectors. $435 for 6, used. - AshsZ 18:26:15 10/10/03 OK, thanks for the info, I was curious. (n/m) - DAYTONAZ 18:55:07 10/10/03 where do you 620 at? (n/m) - BooZted 16:58:16 10/10/03 Crank questimate when they were designed (n/m) - John@Z1 17:00:27 10/10/03 John, emailed you (n/m) - AztecTT 17:04:51 10/10/03 Not bad for a sleeve bearing turbo, how much manifold - Chip(GMS Racing) 16:58:46 10/10/03 Proprietary information. :-/ - AshsZ 17:07:04 10/10/03 EGT is proprietary? why? (n/m) - LordZ 17:33:49 10/10/03 Pre and Post turbine EGT information give turbine thermo - AshsZ 17:47:14 10/10/03 still seems silly to me... but then again i'm an open source - LordZ 19:55:32 10/10/03 You need to understand what makes a business work. - AshsZ 08:36:38 10/11/03 Nice. Glad to see things are coming along. (n/m) - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 17:06:07 10/10/03 ashy, i HIGHLY suggest taking the "620" out of the name - genic 17:11:01 10/10/03 Problem is that turbos have been rated at crankshaft power - AshsZ 17:31:43 10/10/03 Whats wrong with just "Stage 2 Turbos"? (n/m) - SonicZ 17:38:34 10/10/03 That is a good point. =) (n/m) - AshsZ 17:40:47 10/10/03 Duh. That does make more sense. :) *DONE* - AshsZ 17:42:36 10/10/03 no worries ...but i wasnt mentioning jwt (n/m) - genic 17:43:41 10/10/03 Happy to help :) (n/m) - SonicZ 17:47:42 10/10/03 Re: Problem is that turbos have been rated at crankshaft power - NytWolf 17:56:58 10/10/03 Is that math right? I don't think it is. - Marshall 18:30:36 10/10/03 They're called the Z1 Motorsports Stage2 turbos now ;-) - AshsZ 18:35:39 10/10/03 damn :-) - Marshall 18:39:08 10/10/03 LMAO! Good one! (n/m) - AshsZ 18:40:23 10/10/03 they must of been heat soaked at the track..... - J-Z91(OH) 17:11:18 10/10/03 Those aen't the same turbos he used at the track. He also - John@Z1 17:17:49 10/10/03 yeah john, this kinda threw me off though since - J-Z91(OH) 17:19:52 10/10/03 yeah Ash is wierd sometimes, well all the time (n/m) - John@Z1 17:23:50 10/10/03 haha (n/m) - JonnyZ (DC) 19:05:09 10/10/03 I just copied my updated profile to the page... (n/m) - AshsZ 18:29:56 10/10/03 My exact thought. (n/m) - SonicZ 17:40:16 10/10/03 Flow Charts Available? (n/m) - Eggman 17:32:54 10/10/03 yeah, 2nd that request... - E_swift 17:35:57 10/10/03 They aren't. These are prototype turbos built to my specs - AshsZ 17:37:17 10/10/03 Did you guys ever dyno your 550HP turbos? (n/m) - JMT-Z(St. Louis) 18:01:58 10/10/03 Ash, when are you going to dyno the stage 1 550's? - 902+2TT 18:02:00 10/10/03 The Stage1 turbos have been dyno tested, but was done on - AshsZ 18:10:23 10/10/03 Is there going to be a BB version of these anytime soon? (n/m) - JustinChien 18:05:17 10/10/03 The idea here was to find a combination of specs to produce - AshsZ 18:13:48 10/10/03 another fine job, Ash. (n/m) - ForceFedTT 18:11:08 10/10/03 a little photoshop compareof my 1420s - Thrash 18:29:48 10/10/03 Here's another comparison =) - AshsZ 18:39:05 10/10/03 good point - Thrash 18:48:09 10/10/03 PE kit is now $2400. (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 19:35:25 10/10/03 So that makes the pe1420s cheaper since - $400 core charge (n/m) - Thrash 22:50:38 10/10/03 Kinda, the core charge is refundable - Chip(GMS Racing) 23:11:21 10/10/03 Sounds too cheap for those turbos, Chip.. - AshsZ 08:33:32 10/11/03 that's hard to read - J-Z91(OH) 18:59:08 10/10/03 Because I like you so much - Thrash 21:07:05 10/10/03 Yours were not tuned for spool-up - sparkie 00:13:22 10/11/03 I was using boost jets. (n/m) - AshsZ 08:38:34 10/11/03 Nice! We miss you down here.. - Kez43 (25mpg) 18:46:41 10/10/03 Oh the HUMANITY! When will it end?!?! Good job tho ;) (n/m) - quikz 21:37:57 10/10/03 cool. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 00:06:08 10/11/03 Looks very similar to JWT S600s to me. - sparkie 00:10:01 10/11/03 Those looks very similar to my Sport 600s. Check this - 1BADTTZ 00:36:20 10/11/03
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