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gutted or not. 2.5" is ideal, but for someone that has no intention of going beyond stock turbos, I really don't see why everyone is so against these... they're high quality, but they are 2.25", but 2.25" is bigger than stock catalytic converter piping. I believe they're restricted to below 2" at a few points... so a straight 2.25" pipe is better than nothing.
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